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thanks for the clean scrap, love boxerinos

grat tempy

ty 4 ac men

no lmao, but we got S2 Guh S2

we got the brazilian boomers

Thanks for the fight boys, was mad fun

welcome back truefasa

thank you very much for the AC, it was very appreciated

Something I just remembered: do you think that you knowing which account B289 was using on the day Downfall beat RoT had a big influence on the W?

Thanks for the replies! As for the Persians/Pandemic thing it was unfortunate and I can get it because I'm also very competitive, so no hard feelings at all. Personally I enjoyed Downfall's community a lot, I made pretty good friends in there and Downfall was the first main clan I actually cared about. As you said, I wanted to give myself a shot to see how I would do calling in english with the due practice, and because of that and other minor things I ended up leaving. At the same time I feel like some people felt kinda betrayed when I left for DI and ended up holding grudges. Did you also see me as a "traitor" back then or you understood my pov? Do you think multi-clanning being allowed did more good or bad to Downfall? Did you think we were actually gonna win that fight vs. RoT in CWA back in 2016? From your perspective, what made us win? I remember a lot of details from that day, from styles to TS atmosphere and it was really fun being there/recording everything. Why you think Downfall couldn't break the mid sized barreer and become a "top clan"? What was the Clan Wars team you enjoyed the most fighting against? Who are the best callers you've heard in OSRS and what made them special? Do you prefer the current box META or fights with fall ins etc like it was in RS2?

What were your thoughts about me back in Downfall/did anything change? What were your thoughts about Exotic? What are your thoughs about Wilderland? List 5 brazilian/portuguese men that comes to mind Did you ever consider joining RoT? Any fight comes to mind in terms of your calling performance sticking out?

Thanks for the fight lads Defo first 45v45+ we had in CWA, can't say I think it's better than it used to be but we should be able to adapt in a couple fights =p

ty 4 the scrap boys, we did surprisingly good on our scrap even outnumbered by 15 ppl, sv got smoked afterwards lmfao!

Thanks for replying buddy, that's interesting to know. And yeah I remember his name, must've been fun ? Do you remember this WL vs TT fight? How was it from your end, and what were your thoughts about it when you saw our pull etc? Did you ever consider joining RoT? What are your thoughts about former clan mates that joined RoT? What were your expectations about Tempest at first? How do you see Tempest now? Any thoughts on RS2 WL / OSRS WL? My mate Jupaack said hi btw, I've also met him IRL. Do you remember him from TT?

Best clan you've been a part of? 5 brazilian/portuguese warrers that comes to mind? Do you wish there were a big amount of sweden country clans? Do you know someone from RS IRL?

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tyff lads

Damage Inc - By the time I joined (2017, with Brian as Leader at first) DI was slowly starting to get more into CWA, which definitely increased our quality, I'm pretty sure we even stole a fight from Spartans from what it looked like an impossible comeback. The community was great and the people were very easy to deal with imo. The diversity of events (F2P CWA, F2P PvP, DMM, P2P CWA, P2P PvP, RSB) was what made it the more fun to me. I'd say that as weaknesses, at least by the time we closed, we didn't have a large ML. Our pulls were consistent because 80-90% of our men would make planned fights, and something like 50% would make short preps, but it wasn't enough to handle RoT. By that point we also didn't have valuable intel on RoT, which made everything difficult being in a crash war. Ancient Fury - Personally I feel like AF had a pretty solid core, and in 2019 they were gaining a lot of ground. I can't say much about the community because I wasn't really into it, but the fights were very fun. AF was 100% focused in P2P and everyone knew what they were doing, so their member quality was pretty good. AF's ML was definitely shorter than Rev's and RoT's by that point, but even though the fights would be pretty even. Revenant - My stint in Rev only lasted 2 or 3 months, so I'm definitely not the best person to talk about them. I joined Rev maybe 1 month after DI closed, and they just did P2P too. I was just demotivated with the game so I feel like I didn't really enjoy my experience in there, simply because I wasn't really down for it. I made a few fights and it was fun, that's just as much as I remember in all fairness. About rejoining AF or Rev that's actually a really good question. I had more time in AF so I got used to the way they did things and I actually enjoyed a lot my time in there, but I definitely got way more friends in Rev from my time in DI. I enjoyed both clans events, but my experience in AF was better because I was actually down for it, playing the game etc. I guess probs doxing an Arroz kid that doxed me first. 1. I feel like they can be good if they boost activity, but it's usually cancer due to how far people take things. 2. I was never a fan of mass sniping. I wouldn't mind fighting for 10+ hours fighting with an actual pile, but when it got to the point of mass sniping it'd just be boring for me. There were people in WL that also wouldn't mind doing it, but it was just never my thing. 3. I vaguely remember it, and I guess it was up to if you guys were truly having fun. If you were really enjoying it (with pros & cons, because there's always a price to pay) then you probably did good on saying no. If you knew in advance that it was being fun for the time being, but that it would get boring soon, then probs should have accepted the truce. If I'm not mistaken you guys asked for the truce on the last time? Then we rushed a fight you guys had vs. Downfall and then it pretty much lasted until the end of RS2? I could probably be wrong though, don't remember this kind of minor details. 4. Not really bro, and you're actually unbanned 5. Definitely keeping numbers. If we had all these clans around, none of them would be able to actually have good pulls with constancy. 6. TCL will always be on their hearts and that's no secret, but they also made good friends in here and enjoy fighting for WL. I guess I can relate to that if it was the other way around. They'll always be Legends, but now they're also Dragons. That's at least the way I see. 7. I'm not sure about how things would have been if we actually hopped to a private server, but I guess by then we felt like we had accomplished our mission and that closing was the best decision. 8. It's actually good, the only shame is that the capes are inverted # You seemed to have a small memberlist, being a F2P oriented clan in a clan world where F2P action was really limited, getting crashed by RoT with no perspective of getting more options at first. I'm glad to see I was wrong though. I'm honestly not aware about how many clans all these countries hosted, but I think no other country had so many country clans as Brazil. Brazil is a huge country in terms of population and our culture is really troll-oriented in general lmfao. I can't say it was this or that, but it's probably a mix of a lot of players from the same country that would always be baiting each other for da lulz. Miss you Nick!! One brazilian clan at a time, always. We didn't even allow multi-clanning with main clans at a specific point where we were at our peak in 2009ish. 1. If Fools didn't they got pretty close tbh, guess the only argument as for them not being #1 by then was that they were limited to their timezone. I'd say it's possible in terms of pulls/quality, maybe not in terms of overall activity. 2. I honestly can't remember any hispanic clans lmao, so probably yeah. If there was a key, it'd probably be more numbers & loyalty/dedication. Something special about brazilian clans for me is that everyone would defend their clans so badly regardless of the state of it. It looked like everyone was really proud of being on their clans. 3. I stopped watching football because of this lmfao 4. I'd say we're pretty open people, but we need to have some kind of strong connection with a non-brazilian/portuguese person to let them in. If the case applies, we don't really mind them. 5. I agree. We did have our fair share of issues with multi-clanning, but to be honest this almost never became a problem for us because as you said, it was natural to prioritize their country clans. Our former leader Mataoumorre (which still comes to fights occasionally) had plenty of those. One of them was when we were fighting TCL or HA and he was at his family's farm. He was our main caller back then, and mid-calling we could hear some of his parents screaming at him to get out of the computer and help them to park his tractor. He immediately stopped calling and told us he'd brb because he had something to do. He came back hours later drunk screaming "É TORNADO PORRA" which there are no words in english to describe, but if I had to explain I'd say he mean't he came back just as fast as a hurricane lmfao. I could be wrong about some details though, @Vitor can confirm, but this day was really funny. Don't think I ever had a terrible clan leader tbh. Maybe back in RS2 when I was 100% focused in WL but then I wouldn't remember. Can't really complain about recent leaderships though. 6. It's just the way we're used to organize ourselves and I guess it's also a part of the nostalgia. A clan can probably work without boards, but I don't think that would work for WL. I'm also not sure about how good that clan could be. Discord definitely benefit clans and allows them to get themselves organized, but I'm not sure if it could be as good as forums. 7. Ass I remember him yeah, just no clue about where he's been after all these years. I definitely wouldn't take Jeta, M40 and Muzinho, which are the ones I know that were involved with doxing recently. I wouldn't take any other people that did the same. 1. I'd like to see us pulling 70+ every single fight and seeing us pull 100 people on a big prep. So far we had periods where we'd pull 60s easily and 70s with a certain prep, having 84 people on TS as our best pull. Would probably be good to get more people interested in doing P2P fights other than trips and to raise our quality aswell, but as you already said, we're really proud of everything we achieved so far, we definitely weren't expecting it. 2. I'd definitely be down for it and I guess we could give it a shot, however I'm not sure how most of our memberbase would deal with this. Revenant - In our first fight vs. them I felt like we had great spams and streaks in general, maybe just lacked organizaton at specific points since we had some old people getting back at the game. I was pretty happy with our performance tbh. They also did really good, they fought with less 10 people and still held their ground and performed really good. Ancient Fury - Sadly I wasn't able to fight this one due to my internet connection =p Echo of Silence - This was probably the funniest fight we've had in ages. We had a big pull (65 if I'm not mistaken) and since we knew it was their first fight after years, we didn't really tried hard or anything. We performed really well, but we also bantered a lot. I also think they did fine for their first fight back. Violent Resolution - This was honestly really one sided. We had like 55 people but it felt like way more at points. Our KO power was really good and our spams were also pretty solid. I guess they were just coming back to F2P aswell with a lot of old schools, so it's natural for them to have a hard time at first. I guess the only thing that comes to head where they could have done better is spam. Reign of Terror - We had some pretty good fights vs. them, but imo the best one was our last encounter. We peaked at like 72 and we held a really solid performance through all the time cap, being able to keep our numbers in-game, spams off the screen and good streaks. Tempest - For me, our first fight was the funniest. Both clans peaked at 55ish and the fight was squeaky clean. I felt like you guys weren't that used to the box META which made it funnier. Think it's safe to say we performed really well, and the @Wee Man meme made my day lmfao. I'm not sure if I would label them as rivals, but it was always fun fighting TR back then. I remember an uncapped in 2011ish that lasted for 10~ hours. Sadly we lost this one, but I don't think we ever had such a long fight being with a main clan. The boy iam_victorr. He was actually a friend, but Jesus Christ he was REALLY annoying, specially when he was raging mid-calling. It was hilarious lmfao, can't say it wasn't deserved =p TT was always a really respectful clan and we always looked up to them. They had great quality and whenever we'd fight TT we prepped big. 1. I can't remember if someone ever took beef this far where a truly bad situation happened IRL. I met @Leeo IRL while he was in HA and we were both in a crash war though and it was really funny. 2. Guess it was when I pranked Lady Maximas back in 2014. Exotic & NP weren't really in a crash war, but there was some beef going. I called her saying I was from a model agency and after a few mins on the call I asked her to write down the call protocol which was something like "3x0t1c". I actually remember lmfao, everyone started laughing a lot. This is what I'd label as fake news tbh... Much love doxie!! Adenina and Break are savages A lot!! We didn't show him the path sadly 1. Pros I'd say community (this isn't necessarily true for every brazilian clan for the whole time, but it's easier to relate & communicate to people that got same culture etc.), being able to hang out with people that you feel like doing it and I guess it just feels like home tbh. Cons would be less sources of recruits and therefore not being able to impose really high requirements/standards if you ever get to that point. 2. We used to host yearly barbecues back in RS2, and sadly I wasn't able to make any because I lived like 2 hours away from where they did it and I didn't have a car/drivers license by then, but I've still met a lot of people IRL like @Matheus, @Leeo, Cacowho, Rony, Frankventura, Aguia00, Mib 17 and others. The people who made it always had a lot of fun on the meetings though. From my meetings, I'd say the funniest was when Rony smoked weed for the first time lmfao. 3. I think snare is actually fine, but imo it could be more balanced if mage pray actually worked. I think it allowed clans to maintain actual piles even if heavily outnumbered, which gives more room to explore. As a caller I guess what changed the most is that it's way easier now to get big streaks on the same spot, the timing to get switches n such is easier because you got more time to think about whatever you wanna do and evaluate situations on a better note. I don't remember any ?

the boy moses

We actually tried OSRS out on the first month, but turns out just a really small amount of people were down to train up again etc so we thought it was best to just let it be. We had 1-2 fights though, pretty sure one of them was vs. 'The' clan. I can't speak for others, but personally I felt like we truly had a chance to build something meaningful on this new chapter of our history (which for me is 100% being more consistent & fun than our last year in RS2). Realistically, it would be nearly impossible to get as many people involved as we got now without the ex-TCL/SoG boys. I'm not gonna lie, I guess if there's something special to me about that uncapped vs. Arroz was seeing a lot of former rivals fighting for WL whole cap and even echoing/helping us with calls. When I saw that, I was pretty sure that we had everything we needed to go as far as possible as a clan. 1. It was pretty much an attempt to unite MMA & Arroz in OSRS. I honestly don't remember them having any kind of expressive results during their lifetime, but surprisingly they ended up joining Exotic a few months later. 2. Vander had issues with specific people from Exotic because of reasons that I can't remember, but he eventually ended up joining Exotic alongside with the other BR kids. As far as I know, he rarely plays the game and isn't currently clanning. 3. I think the main difference is that we wouldn't get as many WL old schools (if barely any) to join a random brazilian clan filled with former rivals. I could be wrong, but I also think even some of our former rivals wouldn't be as curious. I doubt that back in Exotic using another clan name would work, specially because the beef was still fresh with a lot of people, so even if some of our guys would be down to fight on the same side as people that once crashed them etc, for an ex-WL member would be madness joining a HA remake back then, for example. I guess this worked in WL mainly because of three reasons: 1) having a lot of old schools involved, from our memberbase to our core 2) timing 3) Exotic came first, opening the doors to make it possible. 1. Ronaldinho 2. Pelé 3. Dollar price for exchange raised a lot for us, so to those that wanted to buy GP, the price at least doubled =p

1. That bait didn't work sadly. But nah I was just kidding, I actually don't have any kind of hard feelings at you. True reason you got banned is because your credit card provider denied the 10 USD (subscription fee) transaction. We'll unleash you as soon as this is solved. 2. Ye I actually don't, truth is we keep all TCL in cages so they can't leave, just like my mate Vitor said. In all honesty though, I think it's safe to say that they're enjoying our events just as much as we are, and without each other, neither would be able to pull well enough, which would make fights boring. We're a big happy family. 3. Honestly, I'd give it space to grow, unless the clan crashed us. I'm a man of peace. 4. It is what it is

Everyone in WL hated CWA back then. Realistically though by the timeframe you mentioned, TCL's quality was definitely superior and that's no secret, but at the same time we felt like we had more motivation/willingness to keep going for more time, which gave us more room to explore and chances to bring the W. I guess it's safe to say that both WL & TCL didn't want to take an L against each other.

1. Because you're a big retard. 2. Nah, Wilderlegends is real. 3. I doubt it, even if everyone from the old days were still around I guess people simply wouldn't bother going through all the work. We did put a lot of effort into our reopening, specially on setting everything up again/planning/teaching people the new ways. 4. I actually enjoy it. It's definitely way different than what it used to be, but I enjoy both ways. 5. Now who's biased? ?

Yes, right before I joined DI. Mattyb tried to get me to spy for him in Downfall while I was Commander, after I talked to a couple friends I had in RoT by then. I obviously wasn't gonna spy and I'm glad I ended up going to DI. I honestly don't know. I could be wrong, but I assume TBK's leadership just didn't have the time/weren't willing to keep going. As for TMC, @Matheus could answer better. One of our three founders, Vai_Caga, surprisingly been showing up to our latest events. In OSRS we had Cacowho, MrLolz and me as leaders. Hey bro, howdy? The opponent we definitely prepped the hardest we could was always TCL because of our rivalry. A part from brazilian beef, I always enjoyed fighting Corruption, those were nice fights. Vitor, MrLolz, Wagnerafael, Oultlaw, Lemaster, Obina, maybe Salmão007 That's sick stuff, good old days

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