Bow

33 minutes ago, Rclav said:

@rsd What was your most memorable banning/striking moment of a member or members that you had to deal with? 

 

You guys ran a tight and disciplined ship in RSD, I thoroughly enjoyed my time there and truly appreciate the connections I made in that clan. 

There was a lot of controversy around removing iHockey/D156 and ending as much drama between those two groups of friends as possible.  It put a lot of tension around people but in the end it was always the right decision.  Rules were rules.  By in large people were pretty mild and it was a bunch of petty crap, not a lot of notables.  

25 minutes ago, True 2k8 said:

@Bow

 

What were your thoughts on on 2011-2012 DF? 

 

What was your approach to EOC? Do you regret it? Do you have any regret about RSD not making it to OSRS?

 

 

Its hard to say, we chased you around the wild forcing you to go code red more often than not.  We didn't really fight much in the last two to three years because of the crash war the entire clan world was so obsessively involved in.  

The approach to EoC was exactly what we needed to do.  We took on fights, did practices and pushed onward with it.  I personally hated it and it was hard to get ranks onboard to motivate members as well.  A lot of people quit and many more retired in the months after it was announced, as expected.  If anything it compounded the way the game and especially the clan world was already headed towards.  It wasn't sustainable and it zapped the energy out of the majority of the members.  

I don't regret RSD not making it to OSRS, it wasn't even a realistic option at the time.  I looked at OSRS as a new start for people who wanted to keep playing or a means to an end for others.  To start off it was a temporary relief that there was no guarantee that it was going to last either.  But in hindsight nostalgia kicked in for thousands of people and Jagex realized it was a necessary money move to keep their company afloat and capitalized.  I've never stopped playing and I will never regret not forcing RSD into OSRS.  

10 minutes ago, Hat said:

To all: How did you all find spies / figure out spies? Favorite person to kick? Favorite person that was promoted?
@Bow: Why did you think I was a spy? Was it because of @True 2k8 ?
@Bow: How did it feel having me join at 110 combat and progressing my combat as slow as a turtle  

If you were a spy, it would have been because you wore a fedora.  Honestly who does that at your age and isn't shady as hell.

You still trained faster than Raji did.  

5 minutes ago, True 2k8 said:

@ all

 

Top 5 PK Leaders you had?

 

Worst promotions you made? 

 

@Bow a question specific to you -- XL Frozen (I think he had that Court rank) always flaunted in DF that he was "close" to being promoted to Co-Leader of RSD. How true is this? He mentioned this enough to become basically a meme for a few years and we've always wondered since he seemed a little out there.

F1r3o, Miner Cire, Scythe355, Godsmoke, Scotty Dont.  

D156/Scotty - Both great guys and people loved them, but damn the baggage they came with as far as drama.  Props to scotty on never spending a single gp on funding his own 99 farming.  

Alex was never in any serious consideration for any promotion beyond Court.  My memory fogs a little but I remember there being some kind of dispute to where he ended up retiring over.    

26 minutes ago, True 2k8 said:

@ all: Thoughts on Ghjjf? ?

I heard he finally talked to one of your women.  I don't remember exactly what you told me.  

I didn't really care for Brian until he ended up joining RSD.  Still not sure why he did, rather odd.  We had some pretty chill conversations about clans and whatever.  I think most of our conversations though stemmed from him asking about people.  I get why he was beloved as a clan leader from within and despised from the outside even if I disagree with some of the early controversies.  

20 minutes ago, Ammastus said:

What % of the clan we're actually boomers at the time

At most 4% (12?).  Most of them were retired members.  Which was still a really high amount given the average age of the clan world.  

15 minutes ago, Venenatis said:

@Bow
What makes you think I'm like Icedrop?

@Icedrop

What was your proudest achievement in RSD?

@LivinLarge21

What clan in your era do you consider to be RSD's greatest adversary?

You and Chris have a weird obsession with the most random things imaginable.  But that's where the resemblance ends.  

10 minutes ago, Scleritis said:

@Bow do you regret not holding out for a few months longer to take RSD into OSRS or was it the right time to close?

I don't regret it at all.  It was the right time for everything that was RSD about to be retired, it didn't fit anymore. 

The nostalgia of what that clan world was at the time was over.  I'd say was proven by how few of the core members didn't play old school for years afterwards.  Only in the last couple years have I started seeing names pop back up, especially with the shit show 2020 has been.   No one asked for it back or wanted that kind of commitment, and most happy to have moved on.  Not to say the thought hasn't crossed my mind on how RSD would have stacked up against whatever you want to call this clan world nowadays.  

11 minutes ago, dnd5 said:

@Bowhow did i make it through rsd without getting striked

You kept your toxicity out of public.  

10 minutes ago, Hat said:

@Bow  why did you fight to have this not on forums? Why is it caved? Were you happy that it took over RSD forums and the clan world?

To All: Best fights each of you been a part in and why? Best rivalry you were apart of?

I don't remember fighting against it.  If anything, I hated the multi colored sheep that people spammed and tried to give me a seizure.  

Best fights, probably have to go between RSD and TT time capped fights.  Best competition we had and only fights that felt like fights and not simply an outlasting attempt.  I only ever called the RSD vs DI of 06/07 a rivalry, everything else fell short of that feeling.   Probably the only clan I despised before realizing no single clan was worth treating differently when it came to being an opponent.  

5 hours ago, True 2k8 said:

@Bow

 

Why were you blacklisted from RSD?

 

Could you run me through the whole Dynasty thing :B? Did you really think D156 was capable of leading?

 

What did you enjoy about being in Divine Forces? Damage Inc.?

 

 

I was kicked/banned/deleted for being a part of a group of est based members who wanted to make a clan.  Spin off essentially which was never going to go anywhere productive beyond a group of friends who all liked to pk together.  

Dynasty was D156 asking me to advise him on leading a clan with some other kids who seemed to be somewhat competent.  I went along with it under the condition I wouldn't be an active rank and there wouldn't be all sorts of shenanigans.  Of course that lasted about a day.  I went to work and came home to a bunch of mass recruiting and insanity to take one Vr/Rot or some shit.  I asked to be removed/removed myself.  I was giving D156 the benefit of the doubt.  I was always hesitant on his leadership like qualities after him being demoted half a dozen times over the years but I never questioned his dedication and desire to be successful.  

I was not in DF or DI long enough to say what I enjoyed.  I joined both for a couple friends in each and as soon as their interest was gone so was I, checked out mentally.  I've never been able to commit to anything like I did RSD, I promised myself I wouldn't.  So if anything I guess you could say the initial community approaches by both, maybe, but even then I didn't take part in much.

Bowhunter65 (2010-2013)

Because the other two dove into their stories I may as well go more detailed as well..

Hello. I am Bow. I ended up starting playing this never-seem-to-die game called Runescape back at the end of '01 or early '02.  I was introduced to it by a group of friends who were playing for quite some time before introducing me to it.  I asked them why they held off and they said, "you are the type of person who would get addicted to it".  Well, I should have listened or they should have stopped me.  Bastards.  Anyways, I spent the first 4-5 years of living life as the absolute epitomy of a noob.  Wasting time fishing, looting and pking north of varrock, and honestly straight up wasting a ton of time.

I was introduced to clanning in 2005, went through Gladz, Devils, Corruption, Anarchy, and some version of PI(?) by Evil Miner13.  Eventually I abandoned all of that and joined RSD in 2006, where I basically remained from there on out.  I was kicked in 2007, barred, and then begged for foregiveness and was given a second chance.  Safe to say I didn't squander it, well too badly.

Life in RSD:  As I said, I joined in 2006 and had worked my way up to moderator rank briefly, which I stepped down from as I didn't see the point of the rank.  Preferred the life of a member as well as the time commitment.  Ended up getting involved with the wrong group of friends and was removed for a spin off clan which lasted a few months before I left it to return to RSD.  I hung around for months until I was eventually given a chance to rejoin.  After several trial periods and declines I was eventually accepted back into RSD.  Where I spent the better part of two years as nothing more than a member and wanting nothing more until late 2009 when a number of members nominated me for "apprentice" (a co-leader like trial position) with two others.  Still not really sure where it came about, Icedrop's design.  After some many months it became permanent and I was made a co-leader.  I don't think there was a single person who thought I would have ever become a leader.  Hell, I didn't.  Icedrop retired in 2010 and passed along the reigns to myself and Bclay.  After several years of leading, I eventually closed RSD in January, 2013 with a decline of interest by ranks and members in the game and the direction it was going for clanning.

Its safe to say everyone thinks their clan operates on a different level.  RSD was the same way for me, I enjoyed it because it was by in large a different type of community.  Fortunately, I was able to look at it from both the inside and from the outside over theyears.  Some called us grandpas but I called it a more mature atmosphere with a lot less drama than most had to deal with.  The leaders before me carried the clan in a different manner and that is one thing that I did make sure was upheld with my style.  Although many questioned my willingness to fight clans a lot more openly and on a whim.  But when you could trust the members to show up and kick ass, it was a lot easier to do.  Spent a lot of hours with the clan, hell it pretty much took over a lot of my life there for a while as it did for many.  Lots of good memories of fights, conversations, and the like.

I'll stop there, I've rambled on like an old man does.  I'm sure questions will cover everything else.

rip peck