Aiorya

On 4/11/2023 at 6:56 PM, Matt 17 said:

 

Good stuff

NICE

1 hour ago, Matheus said:

As former WL General back in the day, I remember almost everything from that era just like you guys. I have some questions that you might find interesting:

 

• TCL was founded back in the earlys 08' and quickly reached the second spot on the "luso-brazilian RAW list" beating clans like MMA, LG, HS, TBK, etc. Why did you guys took so long to finally challange WL for a fight? I remember people spamming "come out of the den TCL" across the brazilian and portuguese boards because you didn't want to fight with WL and at that time I didn't understand why - you were the #2 and WL #1, on my vision you could easily accept the fight just to test your own power, then if you lose nothing would actually change - I must admit that we took this game too srsly back in the day and a loss against your biggest rival could change the community as a whole. 

Thats true what u said. A loss could mean a lot back then.

Plus i might remember you, at the time of our 1st fight we were used to fight against mid clans pulling around 40 ppl and our peak was 50 to a week prep while WL used to pull 60's and fight clans like TRWF. 

I must say your mistake was to push us to the 1st fight, the way it was. We lost but we did pretty decent considering the numbers... That gave us a lot of confidence to come back stronger against you guys.

1 hour ago, Matheus said:

• Back in late 2007, every clan at this time known each other clan very well. SoG closed and you guys basically spreaded among the other clans like MMA and TBK, but it did not take so long for you guys to release what you've already know and you had to rebuild the sog community from the beginning. Why none of you guys decided to maintain SoG as a clan after Polaco's departure from RS? Back then If I'm not mistaken Novatorm and Golpe Fatal were co-leaders, Zid4ne0 was Advisor and you had a great leadership, I'm still not convinced that SoG wouldn't last without Polaco with so many good officials. Not to mention other good members you had that eventually turned into staff in TCL like Aiorya, UKavalo and Matador236. 

What was told at the end, was the it was a decision from the officials. the Novatorms ( they were twins sharing this acc, both co-leads lol ) Golpe Fatal, Slave Soul, and the other officials quitted 100% the game and we never saw them after that.

And you're wrong, SoG wouldn't survive without Seu Polaco. I remember when he took vacations and said nothing on the forums... The dude literally disappeared and we almost closed! Some dudes were choosing another name to a new clan alredy when suddenly Seu Polaco came back and everything went back to normal. We were terryfied but then we LOL'd.

1 hour ago, Matheus said:

• How did you guys handled DEK's (Adenina / Supreme Kile) tackling and how did you see ADJ as a whole? Did TCL had members crashing WL when we were targeted by them even when TCL was actually in "good terms" with WL? Who? 

What i remember was Dek/Adj that they started crashing us both, some members asked to flame them back in forums and we never allowed. That was the moment Wilderland started flamming them and started getting hit more and more by the nhs.

The TCL members that WL presented proofs crashing, they got striked/warned or our forums. I don't really member the names, but i think 4 or 5 guys were frequently crashing at a time. But i must say WL has their lil crew crashing us too (even on good terms). So it was even 

1 hour ago, Matheus said:

• I would like to hear more about early SoG if possible. How did you guys were created? Was there any other guy that helped Polaco back in the day? Where did the name Swords of Glory came from? 

Well, i can tell from my own experience

I first saw Seu Polaco on RuneBR or RuneBrasil forums around 2004. There was a "Clan area" Where many small clans could create their private section. Some kind of inicial structure there like Clan History, Recruitment area, Events and that kind of stuff...

It was the day one of Swords of Glory clan , and there was a introduction post of Seu Polaco. Ofc he posted a pic wearing a halloween mask and as the noob as i was, i immediatly felt atracted and joined him as one the first 10 members lol

I was a level 50 combat btw.

1 hour ago, Matheus said:

• I remember TCL had some struggle back in 2009. I don't know what happened, but you guys started to pull low and even lost to LG both in clw and wilderness - this was before the first fight against WL. Do you guys remember if something happened back then? How you managed to turn around that little struggle? 

I know it happned, we had a lost to LG sometime, but i don't really remember :S

1 hour ago, Matheus said:

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• Your thoughts on FBRS / RuneBR.

FBRS was a real Luso-Brazilian community forum, ppl used to respect rules and be striked if not. Good place to flame Wilderland tho

RuneBR was a joke

1 hour ago, Matheus said:

• Your thoughts on the following people (don't need to anwser who you don't know much of): 

D_Dark_Snake - Retarded
Meteora Lord - Loyal, Good player and friend

Romulo5 - Dude was really cool, Best Pk Lead SoG could have ❤️
Murilo171 - Good player, i used to laugh a lot of him on TCL's TeamSpeak
R3nufus - One of our best snipers from BOPE
Rafaels - This guys was a diamond, we shaped him to shine #. He developed calling skills really fast, always brought his best to the wilderness.
Sir Maximon 
Zig Frid
Andcom2 - We talked only few, seemed to be a nice guy
Drag Ahrimps
Decceiver -  While in MMA we became friends, he was fun and really smart dude.

Duke Lanz
Supremo13
Ro Arid - I sold my first full sara to him when SoG and Wilderland were used to be allys. Became a great rival, did a good job while leading Wilderland 
Fil3000 - Don't know much about him. Not sure but heard in the past he was a bit chieldish as a leader.
Megaxes - Known name in the battlefield.

Darck_Angel0 - Known name in the battlefield/ Good hybrid.
Mataoumorre -  LOL
KK Rox - Off the game: He used to make things work on FBRS On it: Die to SoG  xD
Vex Brazil -  While in MMA we became really close, i even tryed to recruit him to TCL but i guess he didn't like the good and old pt-brazilian beef
Susan Ellen - I Have no idea who is this
Tysonps - Good friend while in MMA.

Sacul
Resurgido - Another retarded dude

5 hours ago, EoMeri said:

Actually enjoyed fighting TCL a lot back in the day, timezones were kinda hard to match but somehow we still managed to set up some decent fights. Obviously respected you guys for being a country clan as well

 

Tried to find something TCL related in my archives but only managed to find these two, not sure what the second one is about LOL (maybe Aiorya didn't accept a no prep fight or something)

 

 

Are you jking me? I'd never deny a fight xD

i know u love me noob 

26 minutes ago, true said:

What B/PT do you feel like embarrassed the community the most from their actions towards/in main clans

There were a couple of Nh's that became pretty famous like Adenina/Deus Nh

1 hour ago, D96 said:

How sick y'all think Wilderlegends would have been back in RS2?

I guess we'd be like LDK. Huge numbers, and low quality....

Numbers would drop due to the big ideology/ego thing and wouldn't take much time to get fight and separete again lol

1 hour ago, D96 said:

 

Share a funny story from TCL that never got disclosed publicly

I used to lead saturday events a bit drunk, and most of time we won LOL

1 hour ago, D96 said:

 

A part from WL, who would you say that were your biggest rivals/who you enjoyed the most fighting against?

I don't really remember tbh

I know we used to fight Exodus a lot, at the time most of clans used to fight with blas off rule, they would fight always on, so it prepared us to bigger fights.

1 hour ago, D96 said:

 

In your oppinions, why brazilians always hated other brazilians in RS?

Eeverything started to the #1 pt-br spot dispute back in 2000's

1 hour ago, D96 said:

 

Best party/festival you've been to?

DreamValley and Rock in Rio 

1 hour ago, D96 said:

 

Did you manage to get away from that crazy girl or she still in your house @Aiorya?

Still working on this lolol

1 hour ago, D96 said:

 

How did y'all feel when you saw UK Rei live on TV cus he was late to do his uni entrance exam lmfao?

We made fun of him everyday at the time! 

Even when massing to events 

1 hour ago, D96 said:

@King_Obina how did it feel when you saw @Aiorya getting piled on that WL vs. Pandemic CWA fight? When we said on TS that he was the pile, instead of putting his zamorak set on, he took his green d'hide off, someone must still have that pic bro lmfao

 

@Aiorya how did you manage to do that ^

 

@King_Obina @Aiorya @Frankventura @Victor what's the most NH thing you've done?

 

If WL closed, that would leave a lot of brazilian & portuguese men homeless. Would that make a TCL comeback remotely possible or would still be a big no?

I guess somehow it happned, just can't explain LOL

Once i told WL we'd meet at the wilderness and then  set the rules. Once we got there i just rushed em, and said no rules #

Still a big no.

Just now, true said:

Does Lemaster need his ass kicked?

YES

Just now, true said:

What were your thoughts on CR?

We had some good fights and some beef, but i really can't remember why.

Not sure if it was flame about brazilian clans or something, since CR seemed to have kinda of a rivalry with MMA.

2 hours ago, D96 said:

@King_Obina as for the "brainwash" part you've mentioned - the entire luso-brazilian scene used to say that like it was an absolute truth but realistically I truly don't remember that happening during my stay. We would quite often get crashed by ADJ/EOS/HA when fighting vs. you guys and we used to be hella satisfied about being the last clan standing (in FULL RUNE while SKULLED @ RoT) after 10 hours of fight, outnumbered by 50+ people etc. but it was never like we were blind to not see the struggle, we just would rather discussing whatever we could have done better in private and celebrating the victory in public - uncappeds were never about who performed better, but about who was willing to go that extra mile and stay regardless of being tired/having shit to do the next day - if we actually lost in whatever kind of fight, I actually remember us having a step back as a staff team and telling people to not be claiming something that wasn't ours. In general I feel like during 2010-2012 you guys usually would perform better (but fighting under better circumstances) and bail whenever you got bored, but from our perspective, it didn't matter tanking for 2-3 hours to get the W afterwards. 

 

How did it feel when I deleted all topics from TCL boards back in 2011-12? I remember I was just chilling when Hugo randomly PM'd me with his forum details saying "have fun". Tbh it was just topics being cleaned so no major issues but how did it get to the point of having a Warlord/Pk Leader (mod cp access) rage quitting like that?

 

Did any of you guys @King_Obina @Frankventura @Aiorya @Victor take part on the last cluster before EoC? How was it from your perspective?

 

Vid from that fight:

 

 

It was so important i didn't even knew it happned LOL. it came to my knowledge by you 

I blame Uk Rei to trust Hugo, he was always high. Even when he started to erase our forums i bet he was on drugs, because he only deleted irelevant stuff... 

And WL claiming a forum victory? Not surprised lol.

11 hours ago, D96 said:

That's actually a quite interesting read. I have nothing but respect over TCL, you guys gave me the most fun I've had on this game by far. Regardless of WL or TCL being on the better moment, it was always competitive and it always tasted different when compared to any other fights.

 

I never thought I'd see it happening, but a huge shoutout to when WL reopened in OSRS and 30-35 of you guys joined us. Even if it didn't last for long, was very nice to be clanning with y'all, be it on the fights or community wise. When we had that 8 hours fight against Arroz we were all washed up, low levels etc. but we still managed to smoke them and it was really enjoyable, I never thought I'd see the likes of Aiorya, Rmd, MrLolz & others calling/back up calling/hyping people up in WL while fighting another luso-brazilian clan lmfao.

 

You guys definitely dominated the majority of the luso-brazilian scene from 2010 to 2012. With that being said, assuming all of you weren't in TCL anymore when the mass leave happened, how did it feel to see TCL from the outside?

From my understanding there was a change in the ideology. The act of taking over itself was a sign that this wasn't the same clan i helped to build. At the day i left, TCL has alredy closed to me, that clan you guys fought wasn't even close to my clan. 

11 hours ago, D96 said:

What would you have changed in TCL if you had the chance? And if you say nothing you're lying #

I was a party animal by the time, so i wen't inactive many times the clan needed me...

Not that i wouldn't go to partys if i could back, but i feel i've could put some effort on be there, and i wasn't.

In another words, yes i feel guilty for the takin over thing, and if i was there maybe things would be different by the time.

11 hours ago, D96 said:

 

To @Aiorya, @King_Obina and @Frankventura - how was that uncapped WL vs. Arroz fight for you guys? Did you have the same feeling that I mentioned? What surprised you positively/negatively?

Pure Nostalgia! Was really good to play after ( 10 years? ) Never thouht i could call a spam of "AGAGAGAGAGAGAGA" again xD

Since there was a lot of known old names from tcl, wl, mma, ha it was really fun!

I just wish the guys from Arroz be more honorable and prepared. I mean they were returning in mith/addy lol

11 hours ago, D96 said:

What would it take to reopen TCL?

Why not to open:

Most of us are 25-35 yo nowadays, so i kinda doubt we would put the same effort in teaching new players from the zero to get on top warring level.

There are no new portuguese/brazilian players to recruit

There is no beef on the brazilian community anymore, the old school players are all together doing fine in WL.

11 hours ago, D96 said:

 

How did clanning/RS in general affect your lives?

I pretty much run my business as i used to run TCL lol

i've learned a lot about people, decision taking and many other stuff 

11 hours ago, D96 said:

 

What did you guys admire the most about WL back then? You still felt the same when we reopened in OSRS?

I guess the fact we couldn't close you

Wilderland always were good at the propaganda thing. To the others and to their own members, its like a brainwash trying to keep the "supremacy" thing alive on their minds.

And to keep it alive during the years they count with the presence of the elder members that impressively are still around on WL forums daily. If i'm not wrong they act as ranked advisors or something.

11 hours ago, D96 said:

 

What did you guys hate the most about WL back then? You still felt the same when we reopened in OSRS?

Well, as it was said back then Wilderland used to be so cocky, always flaming and talking trash to other pt-br clans. 

NAH, almost 10 years has passed, the clan community itself is shorter now. There is no why we fight eatch other anymore. I feel like we are old enemies and now the only things left are the good memorys of great and fun warring days. Much respect to the ones from the time.

1 hour ago, true said:

What clans did you respect the most? The least?

We used to have a pretty good relationship with a lot a clans! Maybe we had more respect for the clans that were considered Honors, Rsd/TT/Df/Sol/TR... and many others...

1 hour ago, true said:

 

What is your best *personal* accomplishment in TCL?

To be seen as one of the best callers in our community

1 hour ago, true said:

 

Who are some great regular TCL members that did not get a chance to be ranked?

 

 

Most of the good members were really good at warring skills but at the same time, they were kinda rebel...

The only reason they'd want to get ranked would be to set new rules on a selfish way. Kinda dangerous i'd say lol

So we always gave rank to the guys that most of time had a good sense and point of view

Our warlord Wilky was a combat lvl 113 LOL but he has great diplomacy witch granted us some AC partnerships and stuff like that.

4 hours ago, Tika191 said:

Who was the best tank in TCL?

i think we had a good number of TCLs in Tko Blitz and other teams, those guys became great tankers due to this

19 minutes ago, true said:

What are some games TCL played as a clan (other than rs)

At the time i guess it was Counter Strike 1.6 and Gartic! good times haha

5 hours ago, Lavigne said:

Unbiased, please power-rank the following country clan scenes in order of best to worst (you've played long enough to see every scene I think) - rank any I missed out but I'm pretty sure this is everyone.

Luso-Brazilian

Dutch

Finnish

Swedish

Lithuanian

Australian

Latvian

 

Happy for all of you to answer btw

I'd say Finnish guys were the best, i'm not shure but i guess we never been able to beat FOOLS :,(

4 hours ago, Eric said:

How do you think Brazil losing to Germany 7-1 would have affected TCL if it remained open in 2014?

Dude i don't know you

but i hate you already

2 hours ago, Adam_ said:

What do you guys think of Arroz if you know anything about them?

Lol, they are new school, from what i've seen they are all noobs 🤣

2 hours ago, Adam_ said:

 

What are your opinions on 3rd party client and plugin usage for warring?

Some of the things that takes the glory out of warrirng nowadays

2 hours ago, Adam_ said:

Were there any instances of TCL members doing out of game stuff or other notably bad things that resulted in them either being removed or reprimanded? 

Well, we had Durateen, he was very usefull against WL off the game LOL

At a time he started to scam our own memeber we had to kick him...

2 hours ago, Adam_ said:

Were there any members you removed from TCL that you didn't necessarily agree with removing?

We lost some good members, kicking by  skipp our event to be at their international clan event.

And even being a country clan, we were serious about achieving the victory. 

2 hours ago, Adam_ said:

For @Aiorya would you consider coming back to the game even in a far less active manner? If yeah would you want to get involved in clanning again? What clan(s)? 

The warring style changed a lot, i just couldn't adapt 

But if come back one day will be to dedicate myself to clanning 100%...

4 hours ago, true said:

Who was a better clan: TCL or WL?

Since  we smashed them for 3 years in a row, and against bigger clans we had more fights, and always performed better than Wilderland. So i guess its safe to say we did a lot better.

4 hours ago, true said:

Biggest differences between TCL and WL?

In my mind we were the good boys, honor and respect

WL had a really good propaganda thing on forums, so historicaly they always used to cheat and do dirty things to get the forums win post.

4 hours ago, true said:

 

Who is the best caller in TCL history?

Depends a lot!

But i can say we had the best portuguese/brazilian callers!

Myself, Seu Polaco, 1234Victor, Xx Magiks xx, Moskah, Spanw1, Armorhelmet3, and many others had their spotlight by a time. 

4 hours ago, true said:

What international clans do you feel like were similar to TCL?

Since i was full time TCL i have no idea xD

But as i told we had the honor ideology thing, so we pretty much had no beef with other clans but another Country clans.

4 hours ago, true said:

 

Who are your favorite main clan callers?

Since i was full time TCL i have no idea xD

4 hours ago, true said:

 

Whats your thoughts on current day WL? Thoughts on D96 as leader?

Diogo and some ex-TCL invited me to see how the game is now a days, i played a bit but couldn't adapt myself to the new warring style 

Diogo seems to be a good leader, very political, always avaliable on disc.

4 hours ago, true said:

 

Who is the best TCL official doing this AMA? What made them so valuable?

King Obina who pmed me about this Ama idea  🙂

I’m Aiorya i’ve been clanning since 2004.
I’ve always believed a country clan could be as fun and skilled as a big international clan. Thats where my story beggins
I was one of the first 10 members Seu Polaco recruited to star the Swords of Glory clan. Was there until it closed.
I was on the reunion ex-SoGs made few months after that, which resulted on the opening of The Call of Legends. Not sure if I was lucky or not( lollolol just jking)
The thing is, my reason in this game turned in to make my country clan, a clan of respect to the international community. And since the day one i’ve been very fortunate on finding amazing people who had the same dream as me. Getting a Country clan to challenge the best.
The difficulties on recruiting people that knew nothing about warring, never heard about forums, mIRC or TeamSpeak and turning them into skilled members was huge and constant to a Country Clan survive and grow. 
Looking back, thinking about it, I truly believe we achieved a lot, on a short period with SoG first on 2005-2007 and then having my bro Goodwar15 by my side as leaders we did even a better job with TCL 2008-2012.

And i’m really proud of every single person that made part of this journey.
To Wilderland, i’m very thankful to you guys. Without you we’d never get out of a lot of slump moments, where we need that trash talk. And the taste of the victory over you was always the best! 

About my experiences on international clanning
2007- TRWF
On the first days there was a dude “Boggmonster numbers” or something like that that went racist on me, and I just quit the process on turning member.

2010 – Rejuvenation
What a good clan, i mean was for a short time but i really enjoyed! Good community and really skilled members.

2012 - The Tians 
Joined at the pre-eoc era when I decided to leave TCL (since it was taken, it did not made any sense to be there right?). And tbh I was quite inactive already, so was there only for fun. They had a really good community, had some good moments on their TS! Stayed there a few months until quit the game completely.

Good job everyone!