COVID Vaccine

[£Blogs 452]

 

13 minutes ago, Josh said:

 

 

Knew this was coming and damn it was worth the wait.

Edited April 10, 2021 by Blogs

[Kura 373]

I would be gladly willing to keep this discussion rolling but I'm not sure if you want me to continue or if an even longer response with evidence from medical experts would make you feel unsafe because of the supposed danger the "lies" of an entire community of doctors offers to you. See, I could say the same about your point of view since there's more than 50 pages of serious adverse reactions reported just from the COVID vaccine itself on CDC's official site (unfortunately it didn't make it to a Facebook post), and that's why I'm here for -- to warn people of its danger. I don't bother to respond at all, as per se this is to me a chance to explain why I had the same opinions as you have but later on found myself wrong. 

 

There are meticulously researched data listing the references upon which data is based, people respected in their respective areas who gave some light onto issues that are assumed to be clear-cut and settled long ago, way before me. It would take a while to respond such a long response but by no means it would be difficult when there's literally every answer easily found online to every point you called out. But unfortunately, as Tika have said, somewhere in this forums the same topic got a little bit intense, which is by no means my intention and I have no interest in engaging in a name-calling discussion with personal attacks on someone's character.

 

Perhaps in respect to our fellow friends, the community and the clan itself I should leave this topic alone in order to prevent unnecessary and even disrespectful assumptions about each other. And if by any chance I did disrespect you or someone else with the way I pointed out my views then I sincerely apologize. Sometimes poor choice of words can be made out of anger when you have a brother hospitalized and a grandfather dead right the very after their jabs, being myself injured before. So yep, in this case I'm sorry so. 

[Pengy 109]

21 hours ago, Kuraminha said:

I would be gladly willing to keep this discussion rolling but I'm not sure if you want me to continue or if an even longer response with evidence from medical experts would make you feel unsafe because of the supposed danger the "lies" of an entire community of doctors offers to you. 

You are more than welcome to post your evidence. However, calling the vast majority of physicians (and other healthcare professionals) liars is inappropriate. Doctors undergo a rigorous training to become specialists in the field, and provide important advice to keep us health and safe. The overwhelming majority of doctors and guidelines clearly recommend vaccination, both for COVID, and other infectious diseases.

 

21 hours ago, Kuraminha said:

See, I could say the same about your point of view since there's more than 50 pages of serious adverse reactions reported just from the COVID vaccine itself on CDC's official site (unfortunately it didn't make it to a Facebook post), and that's why I'm here for -- to warn people of its danger. I don't bother to respond at all, as per se this is to me a chance to explain why I had the same opinions as you have but later on found myself wrong. 

When you visit the CDC's adverse reports page, you are greeted with a warning at the top of the page. I have attached a screenshot here for your convenience. The CDC accepts reports of any adverse events around the time of vaccine administration, whether there is any true relationship to vaccine use or not. Considering that you claim to be well-read on this issue, I am sure you are familiar with the concepts of correlation and causation. There may appear to be some correlations between vaccine use and adverse reactions (whether these correlations are real or not). However, this does not imply that the adverse event was caused by the vaccine. 

 

 

21 hours ago, Kuraminha said:

There are meticulously researched data listing the references upon which data is based, people respected in their respective areas who gave some light onto issues that are assumed to be clear-cut and settled long ago, way before me. It would take a while to respond such a long response but by no means it would be difficult when there's literally every answer easily found online to every point you called out. But unfortunately, as Tika have said, somewhere in this forums the same topic got a little bit intense, which is by no means my intention and I have no interest in engaging in a name-calling discussion with personal attacks on someone's character.

This is a public forum, you are more than welcome to express your beliefs to others. Further, you are especially encouraged to use references if you think they will help convince others of your claims. Nobody on this thread is name-calling. However, several of us disagree with the claims you are spreading, and want to make sure that information about the COVID (and other) vaccines is rooted in evidence-based scientific reasoning.

 

22 hours ago, Kuraminha said:

Sometimes poor choice of words can be made out of anger when you have a brother hospitalized and a grandfather dead right the very after their jabs, being myself injured before. So yep, in this case I'm sorry so. 

I am truly sorry that you are going through such a traumatic experience. Illness and death in the family, especially simultaneously, is very difficult. However, I urge you to examine all biologically plausible potential factors involved. Although vaccination may have occurred within a short period of time to these events, there may not be much evidence to suggest that it played a part.

[Da Bazz 715]

I'll get it as soon as I can probably somewhere in the summer. Hopefully by then all the negative effects have been revealed and I can 'safely' take my shot(s).

 

Kudos to Josh, Pengy couldn't have said it more eloquently.