King_Obina

I tried to watch and learn stuff from every good staff I was around. From TCL I would say Skinny_Bmx, this guy helped TCL to keep good important members, by talking them out of leaving for bullshit reasons. Trying to remain calm and serious, in situations like Salamero who used to be an FA Manager on TCL, even when the guy you are trying to teach/talk to is an absolute moron. During my time as a Council/Fa Manager I tried to act the way these guys did back in the day, and I wanna say it worked like a charm.

I think you guys have a good project going, solid and experienced leadership, the community looks healthy I don't see much inner beef (it is hard to tell tho since there is no RSC anymore). I liked the way you guys positioned yourselves from day one, even considered of joining if you allowed me to do both WL and Tempy. I think Tempest is a mix of several clans and ideas altogether, you have similarities with DF and also with TT from back in the day. I believe you can survive just by doing your own thing even if the game gets boring. The community driven clans tend to last the most and it is something I value after seeing TCL end the way it did.

I think at this point in time, they see us as any other member of the clanning community. But looking back to like 2007-08 or even 09 I think most saw us like noobs LOL since Brazilians mostly cared about our domestic rivalries. I think things started to change maybe mid 2009/2010 when TCL WL and HA started to pull better numbers and challenge bigger clans on a weekly basis.

I know BigbigOK , Aiorya and Skinny_Bmx IRL yes that is a thing, WL does big IRL encounters every year.

What are your thoughts on Revenant as a clan? Rev is a solid clan with solid pulls and good quality, TOP 1 contender with Tempest/AF for sure. Why do you think RoT pulls 30 members now, and lost every gdz fight vs Revenant? also losing every fight vs any other clans? I believe their members are finally realizing that what they are doing is pointless and pathetic and that is causing their numbers to dwell. Do you know Demais in WL? Nah Do you know RoT MattyB? being from Brazil himself, did you ever had contact with him? Brazil is big as shit, I have doubts of Mattyb being actually Brazilian maybe it is just a random name? How big is RuneScape in Brazil? Not Big, here people play more League of Legends and Counter Strike (We are shit at League, but Brazil is a Counter Strike power house).

Not much, he was not in our radar during that time like idk Angelin and others were. He also did not partake on the boards a lot like Horn4 or Shadowmix or other WL leadership officials of the era.

How did TCL go about recruiting and maintaining the big numbers all that time? We were able to recruit members from other Brazilian clans all the time, we also had a good JR clan who was led by @MrLolz which also provided us with a solid recruiting pool. What was the best part of TCL? I believe that we had a victorious mindset, that itself accomplished alot. Do all of you feel as though TCL accomplished what it was meant to? On a sense it did, but not entirely, we were never able to beat Fools as best country clan which was one of our objectives at the time. If you had to do it all over again - could TCL be rebuilt into the power house it used to be? Nah, there are not enough Brozils/Portuguese around for that;

All the TCL x WL were pretty intensive, also fights with EOS and CR since they talked big on Zybez. But the best one is TCL X TT from 010.

Not on TCL, if we had one I would remember, we did not had a lot of girls on the clan tbh.

I had another Fa Manager with me during some time, Victor Carty, that dude was bad and dumb as shit.

Finnish (You guys are crazy good at this game, congrats) Luso-Brozil (TCL/WL/HA back in the day would lose mostly to Fools but could tangle/win of the above most of the time) Dutch (Had solid clans like VIT) Lithuanian (Always had good fights with the Lithuanian, LDK back in the day pulled huge numbers) Australian (had constant wins over CL, but they have that timezone stuff, I don't remember other Aussie clans) Latvian (never fought you guys)

That was Aiorya from start to finish, well I think we took Joacas down on the 2nd or 3rd pille, that helped a lot... also our overall quality was better as well.

Who were your allys and who were your enemies? LG and MMA were "allies" during some time, we were also very close to TMC and 2Mighty4you... I think the only actual enemy we had was WL. What Were your thoguhts on smaller brazilian clans like Monocromatic Brazil? They were decent, I believe from the likes of TBK, TNT, AA, RA, and GD they were one of the most solid ones. If you each had to pick another BR clan to be a part of and leave TCL which clan would it be? I would probably join LG or MMA, not sure I would fit tho. I tried HA for a small amount of time after I left TCL could not fit the community, maybe by my own lack of effort at the time.

Help in the creation of, a solid FA triage system that would help us have good and loyal members. Also my long lasting friendship with the former TCL boys.

@Lemaster, Moska, Leofontes, Pato (The real one aka Hotmaan1), Felipe Prieb, @Vitor and @D96.

Who was a better clan: TCL or WL? Depends on how you look at things, I would say TCL was a better warring clan, WL as a community is still testing the ages to this day. Biggest differences between TCL and WL? I think WL has a similarity with DF, they have a strong tight community and can survive just doing their own thing. TCL needed something to kill, and most of our members were all driven on by victories and performance, we also had a lot of ego in our ranks back in the day. Who is the best caller in TCL history? Also depends on what do you think is best, in a big fight in Wilderness and in his prime, my boy @Aiorya . On CWA or less options I think Armorhelmet and Spawn1 share that spot. What international clans do you feel like were similar to TCL? TT had some similarities with us, specially the whole quality over numbers they had going over the times. Who are your favorite main clan callers? Aiorya, Spawn1 and Armourhelmet, on a good day if we were not losing Uk_Rei was good was also very good. Whats your thoughts on current day WL? Thoughts on D96 as leader? Current WL is a good surprise, I would never imagine a country clan apart from Fools would be able to do what WL did on OSRS. About @D96 he is a good lad, he put his heart and soul in, WL and was responsible for a lot of what WL accomplished. He reminds of UK on a lot of his thoughts and actions tho. Who is the best TCL official doing this AMA? What made them so valuable? Aiorya he was a major part TCL's agagaga spirit, it was always noticeable that clan really felt his absence when he went inactive.

Leofontes77 used to be a Fa Manager in WL if I remember correctly, he was a pretty good Warlord in TCL and was our final pre takeover leader as well. Now members who were in TCL and went to WL, RMD went WL->TCL->MMA->TCL I think LOL

Hello Guys, I'm King Obina. You can call me Thiago if you want since that was already "leaked" anyways LMAO. I'll try to keep this brief since this topic is already a gigantic wall of text. I have been playing runescape since 2006, only got into serious clanning with TCL only in 2008. I was in TCL from mid 2008 to late 2012, had the ranks of Fa Manager and later Council for around 2 years, from late 2010 to late 2012, and had the time of my life. I recall most things, since my job as an Fa Manager and Council, had me talking with every single member in the clan. After all I've passed and the effort put into that clan, I can say TCL will be always on my chest. There I made life long friendships, even tho the clan has been closed for almost 10 years I still talk to the boys on a daily basis (lixas). I had passages through some clans on RS2 and some of you might know me from those. I had a brief stint through ROT as a FA Member, also was in DF when they had @true as a Warlord, and lived the rest of my RS2 days in TT, from 2011 until rs2 ended on 2012. On OSRS I had a stint on DF from 2016 to 2018 and left as a senior member, due to IRL projects keeping me away from the game. I then joined WL mid 2020, and helped @D96 and @Vitor the way I could, on their project of bringing WL to a level to compete with the rest of the clan world. Had a passage as Council and currently hold the immortal rank (aka glorified retired). Feel free to ask me anything, and I'll try my best to respond on a timely manner.

To talk about TCL we must take a step back a bit to explain about the biggest Luso-Brazilian Rivalry of Old Wilderness era SOG VS WL. WL was the #1 clan, and they were really cocky, I mean REALLY cocky. Always looking down to the other small pt-br clans with superiority, their red kingdom, the “WL Supremacy” is what made the blue empire rise. I (Aiorya) was one of the first 10 members of the Swords of Glory clan, and at the start we were all about growing our community and have fun. As we started to grow on numbers and having more warring experience, Wilderland started to see us as easy resources, where they could “steal” good members. They then made a fake good impression of older brother, at this point SoG was at an all time rise, so whenever they felt we could be a possible threat, they would invite some SoG members over as friends, just to steal them. On the forums they were all good and friendly, but that wasn’t what was happening for real. We started to get mad, getting hit and not hitting back. Until there was a time we called'em to a full out to straigthen things out. It was historical to our scenario. Both clans pulled huge numbers, but at the end of the fight Wilderland won. We’d have vids from some of their members returning, but we never asked to an official rematch since we knew they would break all the rules to bring the win to the forums. After this SoG practiced more, and more, got stronger at a point we fought TT(at the time they were #10 on the Raw or something like that). After that We started to hunt Wilderland every weekend, we decided they would never step into the Wilderness again without our say so. Every weekend we had no event against other clans, was all about hunting Wilderland on pk trips, no rules this time, no cap, no mercy. As these things started to get usual, at the end of 2007, our leader Seu Polaco had personal reasons to quit the game, and had the clan close with him quitting. Without SoG on the cenario, Wilderland came back stronger than never.They were back as cocky, as they were the time before they get smashed by SoG. We couldn’t see this, and just sit there watching... Most of SoG members had quit, the few left joinned diferent brazilian clans. Where we were, we’d try to make our new country clans leadership’s head to react to Wilderland agressions to the other small clans. But none of them had the balls to do that, I mean MMA tried once or twice but they didn’t have the warring spirit that is needed to bring a bigger clan down or at least make them sweat. It was time, to call back all the Legends... The Call of Legends – Early 2008 - Mid 2013 The Call of Legends was a Luso-Brazilian clan, founded in early 2008 by former SOG (Swords of Glory) members Caio Lost and Zid4ne0, with the objective to be the best Luso Brazilian clan around, and of course beat the crap out of WL. Both Caio and Zid stepped down shortly after the clan opened due to IRL shenanigans, and passed the leadership to Marorio4 as leader and U_K__REI as Co-Leader, who proceeded with a plan of building a solid core of members. With a quiet start TCL focused in inner development and community in order to build a solid core, also in nurturing a good relation with the rest of the Brazilian & Portuguese community apart from WL (who at the time, already had engaged us in a flame war in all boards LOL). Mostly through 2008 TCL fought LG and MMA from the Brazilian Scenario, and clans such as Luna, TBE, DragonWood, Liths, etc. 2009 was the year TCL had a huge bump in numbers, with a mass join of Arcane Army (another small brazilian clan) members, also the acquiring of Chaos Legion as our junior clan (Yeah we kinda bought them) and having secured solid wins against MMA,TCL had secured the TOP #2 with no dispute. Aiming to dethrone Wilderland we scheduled our first official week prep fight against WL, TCL pulled around 90 and WL pulled big 130 people, this fight was a huge cluster fuck and WL won, (Sniper cap was completely ignored by WL's leadership at the time). However we were very proud of our performance specially being outnumbered by roughly 40 people. After this fight, the focus changed to quality. With the leadership taking a toll Uk_Rei decides to step down, going back to Pk Leader status. Aiorya and Goodwar15 both took front as the heads of the Legends household and solidified the clan under a 3 year tenure. From mid-end 2009, to the end of 2011 and beginning of 2012, TCL kept rising, with quality and numbers going up. We were able to go toe to toe with clans like, Solace, RSD, EOS, COR, TT and Fools when TCL was at its peak. With a established leadership, TCL absolutely dominated the Luso-Brazilian scenario with little to no losses to the other Brazilian foes, beating them when they tried to work together. When they outnumbered us: We even baked them with our chef's hat one time Agagagaga 2012 was a rough year for the clan world and specially TCL. Both our long lasting leaders went inactive, and some key officials left due to not agreeing with the new leadership chosen at the time (Leofontes77 & Zid4ne0 coming back from the dead), that generated a mass leave mostly by the former Chaos Legion members, the clan was pulling around 30-35 and moral went downhill. In an act of despair and trying to restore the clan's unity and numbers, former leader Goodwar15 applied a coup d'etat and invited the officials that had left back into the clan. However the old core members reacted to that and left, the result was a small change in numbers and a dive in quality and dedication towards the clan was noticeable. This new TCL 2.0 as it was called by the brazilian community at the time, proceeded to exist under the Leadership of RMD, Moska and Mrlolz (Nathan), and finally closed by the mid-end of 2013.

Soooo from what I'm reading, Rot's members had 2 rune set in bank and they are gone now?

Yeeah

Rod is officially dead now

What happened to 7Sem10? Is he still around? Also what are your thoughts on George as a caller?

Sulman from TT just vanished, do you have any contact with him @Dickus @Flukejiver?

I think you forgot there is a VIRUS THAT IS STILL KILLING PEOPLE, MATE... And my girl who is also fatal. I've met Bigbig_Ok, Skinny Bmx and Aiorya...