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What are some things you wished PH could accomplish, but could not, for whatever reason? We never really had aspirations to be a top X clan, we were just doing our own thing in the mid-size clan world. I wish we had set up an IRL meetup while everyone was still active tbh. What top clans did you respect the most? The least? The most - The Titans, Reign of Terror. The least - Violent Resolution

What your biggest pull to an event? As a clan? ~68 or so, as a CC team it was probably 100+ Did you do other activities outside of pk as a clan? We actually played the game unlike most clans in the late RS2 period, so plenty of PvM stuff/CWA luring/etc What is your favourite memory? I liked the early OSRS period where everybody played the game and trained up together. It was a breath of fresh air and everybody was pumped for the game after the downer EoC was. What is your least favourite memory? EoC, I straight up quit the game and clanning and could not be bothered to even try Have you ever played on an rs private server? Nope

A bunch of different clan rivalries merged into giant alliance cluster fights. PH had beef with Genesis, Downfall didn't like Genesis either. TT was beefing with VR, Solace was beefing with EoS. What would've been individual rivalries/crash wars all merged together into giant cluster fights. I wasn't very active during this period so maybe someone else here can give a better explanation but here's the clans I remember Holy Alliance - Solace, The Titans, Pure Hatred, Downfall, and some other clans/teams Slave Alliance - Violent Resolution, Echo of Silence, Genesis, and some other clans/teams I tried looking online for anyone who listed out the alliances but couldnt find much since Zybez forums are gone. Someone listed this though "The Holy Alliance being - SOL/TT/TK/PH/DF/WL/LS and the Slave Alliance being VR/EOS/GEN/SO/CD/HA/CL". I don't know who TK and LS is, not sure if Wilderland was in the Holy Alliance or not but if Hell Army was on the Slave Alliance side then maybe they had some Brazilian clan beef at the time. On the Slave alliance side I'm not sure who SO is and don't remember if Critical Damage, Hell Army, or Chivalry Legions was involved either. But that list could be right. The funny part was that in the CDRSC awards for 2012 best rivalry the initial winner was literally listed as "Holy Alliance vs Slave Alliance" and then they took that down because the names were potentially offensive or something and renamed it to Holy Alliance vs Unholy Alliance If anyone still has the original image that said "Holy Alliance vs Slave Alliance" please post that shit. Edit: after some internet detective work I have obtained the original

We never fought DI, they closed in 2009 and we were just a CC team at the time. In the later years like late 2011 through 2013 OSRS we had pretty good relations with TT, we'd AC for each other a lot and leaders were on pretty good terms. DK were a nuisance to TT and we were in a rivalry/crash war with DK so that made us friends basically. We were also on the same side as TT in the cluster fights of 2012 (I think TT participated in the Holy Alliance vs Slave Alliance stuff?)

I don't really remember ever hitting FOOLS, although there was this one time LDK got really mad at us and was trying to hunt us near BH. Maybe we ended up killing people from both clans or something and LDK were pissed off enough to try to hunt us.

Wee Man never really talked much on a mic back then and doesn't really say retarded shit, so I'm having a hard time coming up with one here. Other than the one I told in page 2 about us voting for his mom in the 2011 RSC awards for best tank. Fun fact: I even convinced Saddampbuh from NI to vote for her. I don't think he found the idea very funny but did it anyways.

Were there any clans you guys felt allied to in some way or another? In the early days of 2009 we never crashed CoR or bothered them in any way because @Robtokillhosted our teamspeak + forums back then. We weren't necessarily allies or anything since we were just a CC team at the time. In late 2009 we actually were allied with NI after they broke off from DK. VR was huge at the time after DI closed and they were pulling 150+. We participated in the anti-VR on the side of Divine Forces + Corruption + EoS since DK were allied with VR. Later on, we were allies with Downfall and the same side as them in the Holy Alliance vs Slave Alliance clusters, I think most people remember that. We also had friendly relations with TT as well. We also had pretty good relations with Critical Damage for a while, who also originated as a CC team. Any specific Genesis members you wanted in PH who were in Gen at the time? Give me a brief overview of how the PH/Gen crash war went through, it's a huge gap which I have yet to fill throughout the years as I wasn't playing RS at the time I wasn't very active during the original Genesis crash war in RS2 so someone else would have to answer this. As for the OSRS crash war I think it was a continuing where we left off kind of a deal.

I thought about this for a while and there is one story from our open CC days in early-mid 2009, which is the story of how we started the rivalry with DK. In early 2009 PH and DK were actually allies, and DK would actually help us hit Terminal Ftw every now and then. I think Krunal actually joined their fights sometimes. However, as you may know, Derek is a complete moron and DK were a bunch of assclowns so most of us didn't like them. Eventually, sometime in summer of 2009 at some point, Hellboys and I decided we were going to hit DK. Krunal was busy sucking footlongs working at Subway so he wouldn't be online until the evenings, so Hellboys and I were running the clan most of the time that summer. So one weekday afternoon, KTV5968 was leading DK near GDZ. Our fall in was walking towards there as well, I remember DK was just spamming "Hi ph" as we were walking up. I was leading the fall in and and we one shot Ktv. It was fucking hilarious, they thought their allies were walking towards them and then their fall in leader gets one banged. Anyways, after that let's just say we weren't allies with DK anymore. When Krunal got on that night, he was furious since he was the one maintaining the alliance with DK at the time and Hellboys/I destroyed all of that. Krunal actually quit then clan for a week, and we ended up using my CC for a few days instead of his. But after Krunal came back he was onboard the "fuck DK" train.

Honestly, the crash war with Solace would've gone better if we did it ourselves. This is not shitting on Downfall in any way, but with Downfall we were fighting Solace straight on head to head. If we were by ourselves we could've applied asymmetrical warfare essentially. We were very good at ruining fights for clans larger than us that got involved in crash wars. The Pure Downies fights in the Holy Alliance VS Slave alliance were great though, no regrets teaming with Downfall there. Sometimes with these crash wars it's not about winning a head on fight directly, but making the other guy lose their planned fights and having their members feel like they were wasting their time ingame. We were okay with not having standard fights and just crashing, most other clans were not and would see attrition after a while. This is something we did to Genesis in OSRS when they had fights outside of our timezone, we'd hit their returners/stragglers and then log out or go to singles if they stopped the fight. I remember this one time Genesis was fighting Divine Forces they stopped the fight a dozen times except they couldn't find us most of the time after they stopped. @True 2k8was actually leading DF ingame at the time and I remember he was super annoyed at Genesis for stopping the fight so many times and at us for crashing. Tl;dr we were the Taliban

I've been gone from the clanning community for 8 years now, I'm surprised Wee man and Gochance1 has kept it going in multiple clans since then

Yeah I'm not too clear on the exact dates of PH vs Exo now that I think more about it, I thought it was mid-2010 but may have been late 2010 and bled into early 2011. I was trying to look for videos/threads and this was the only PH vs Exodus vid I could find which was from Jan 2011. I don't know if this was from the beef or just a scheduled fight later on though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpV-chY5L5I I also found a vid of PH vs CL in the 2011 Jagex Cup, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbXPa5CGGqw I remember this one where we lost but didn't do too bad while being down 7 from the start I guess

We weren't alive during original wilderness era or the CWA era. PvP era we were a CC team, BH world era was when we grew and got organized. I quit after EoC because the game sucked and so did half the clan really. OSRS was fun since everyone was leveling up and starting from anew. If EoC kept going without OSRS release we would've closed anyways. OSRS injected some fresh air into the clan world and we had a bunch of people return to the game. But eventually IRL responsibilities still caught up and we closed.

It's been a while so some of the details are hazy but I remember before the PH vs Exalt crash war, Exalt had fights with other mid-size clans like Ascension and the RSC threads would get pretty nasty. So I figured Exalt must've done something to piss off the other clans like Ascension/Exodus/etc since you were the common factor. It wasn't the longest crash war or anything but I do remember having fun during that one, seems like you guys had some internal conflicts as well which led to closure that I wasn't aware of.

In the very beginning we were literally a bunch of guys who were pking in Falador when PvP worlds came out since Fally was multi combat. No TeamSpeak, no organization or anything. We just joined a CC and teamed up. It was simply for pking and not warring or anything. We would have an open CC 16 hours a day where people would join and pk together. Eventually over the we eventually stopped doing that and worked our way to become a clan over the course of a year and a half. So basically we were one of the few clans who was built from scratch from a source outside of the existing RSC clan community in that era. Really the only benefit is if you like pking, cause someone would be running the CC for most of the day.

Ah, never mind then about that part then. It's been a while so forgot some of these things with the other clans.