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17 minutes ago, Vanzant said:

Im a 20 year player but lol I did kinda tell him no couple months ago xd . Thr current ama made me interested but I'd have to go through a lot of work to find what I can lol. Danielas is pretty frigging amazing lol


@Daniela you’ve got a bit of a fan boy. Did you hear he’s the leader of the BK?

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On 5/3/2021 at 8:06 PM, bomb said:

Ye, after they closed and went to DF was when DF became pretty relevant going from the top 15ish to top 1-2 clans (at the time).  

While DS closing is what led to DF competing for and eventually taking the top spot, they were already a top 5 clan when DS closed.  DI and Corr were closer competition to DS at the time, but DF was far from being just a "top 15ish" clan.

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1 hour ago, Wise Counsel said:

Yeah, I would tend to agree with this. DF actually gained a lot of momentum because of DS closing. There was a bit less competition at the top and more room to grab share with ex-DS members joining new clans.

Remembered them being outside the top 7-10 for sure at the time. Maybe I’m just old, idk. 

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3 hours ago, bomb said:

Remembered them being outside the top 7-10 for sure at the time. Maybe I’m just old, idk. 

It’s possible that we may be thinking about different time periods. At the end of the day, we can agree that DF went to number 1 and held it for a while.

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DS was a solid clan that I respected a lot; it was fun to fight them every once in awhile and learn about what we needed to improve on from it. I had some good conversations with some of their officials back then, and they were always friendly. I'm not a fan of the "close at the top" mentality, as I personally think it is significantly more impressive to build a clan that spans generations and can continue to be highly competitive, but obviously my clan benefited from it heavily jumping from like rank 4 or 5 to the top spot. Some of their members joined and didn't click well with DF, but a bunch of them joined and really added good value to our clan, so I am definitely thankful for that.

 

I also sort of agree with some of these old DI members on their large numbers being the main reason for their strength. From like August 06 and on when we fought them I felt like we really gave them a run for their money, but their consistent numbers that spanned multiple time zones ultimately was too hard to overcome. Regardless that was the path to dominance at the time and they mastered it, so credit to them.

 

Either way DS was a solid clan that made a big impact on the clan world. We have some ex-DS guys in our discord and whenever DS gets brought up they speak fondly of it, and really that's all that you want out of a clan.

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They were great for the time period. Would've been interesting to see how well they'd do today.

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On 5/5/2021 at 12:22 PM, Blue Wall said:

While DS closing is what led to DF competing for and eventually taking the top spot, they were already a top 5 clan when DS closed.  DI and Corr were closer competition to DS at the time, but DF was far from being just a "top 15ish" clan.


Agree with this and with Bunty.  Around the DS closure, DI/DS were in their own league.  Corr was a solid #3 and DF was somewhere in the 4-6 range with EH and VR.  EH, VR, and DF were growing off each other at the time and gaining numbers.  DI was hunting PK trips of those 3 clans and trying to hinder their growth - EH, VR, and DF weren't seriously competitive with DI at the time, but were going from pulls of 60-70 in summer 2006 to 80-100 in spring 2007.  Corr was doing something similar, hungry for fights with those newer clans gaining numbers (likely sparking and fueling the budding DF-CORR rivalry).  DF was climbing up in the ranks, becoming more competitive with the older top clans, and, though getting DS members helped, it just sped up the rise.

In my experience fighting DS while in Gladz, ST, and EH, DS' strength was that they were ahead of their time in spamming and had large numbers.  Check these spam piles from 2006:
 


I don't remember about how the power dynamic was or wasn't changing between DI and DS at the time of closure.  So I'd defer to Brian's expertise and earlier post on that.  But I would also say that it was becoming quite hard for DS to get serious fights.  No one (other than DI) was willing to fight them for long periods of time.

 

Some topics for those interested:

DS vs. CORR and DS vs. DF: https://web.archive.org/web/20061206185201/http://www.runescapecommunity.com/index.php?showtopic=700124

DI declares war on DS:
https://forum.tip.it/topic/35256-damage-inc-declared-war-on-dark-slayers/

DS
clan website: https://web.archive.org/web/20080917233341/http://s8.invisionfree.com/dark_slayers_clan

Requirements to join a
Dark Slayers in 2005: https://www.rsbandb.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=5357
 

 

Edit: if you're interested in upgrading your kitchen, check out DS' "Wilderness" board on their old forums.

Edit #2: also shout out to RSD, who were a major competitor to DS at some stage during early RS2.

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1 hour ago, 3lite said:


Agree with this and with Bunty.  Around the DS closure, DI/DS were in their own league.  Corr was a solid #3 and DF was somewhere in the 4-6 range with EH and VR.  EH, VR, and DF were growing off each other at the time and gaining numbers.  DI was hunting PK trips of those 3 clans and trying to hinder their growth - EH, VR, and DF weren't seriously competitive with DI at the time, but were going from pulls of 60-70 in summer 2006 to 80-100 in spring 2007.  Corr was doing something similar, hungry for fights with those newer clans gaining numbers (likely sparking and fueling the budding DF-CORR rivalry).  DF was climbing up in the ranks, becoming more competitive with the older top clans, and, though getting DS members helped, it just sped up the rise.

In my experience fighting DS while in Gladz, ST, and EH, DS' strength was that they were ahead of their time in spamming and had large numbers.  Check these spam piles from 2006:


DS vs. CORR and DS vs. DF: https://web.archive.org/web/20061206185201/http://www.runescapecommunity.com/index.php?showtopic=700124

I'm over here partial flexing saying we could keep up with them in fights for a bit, and you post a link to a day where they wiped us out in 10 minutes. God dammit lmao.

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50 minutes ago, Wise Counsel said:


You and @Bunty bring up some great points.
 

While I was in THE clan from 2005-2006, there was one fight in particular that I remember from 2005 where DS took on The Alliance as a whole (Gladz + THE + TMRD + Jagz) in an official war and won by a massive margin. DS had pulled around 130 members while The Alliance pulled 300+ members. The only other clan to have pulled off something like this against The Alliance was DI.

 

Here is the link to the war: https://youtu.be/0NO82VlnQS0

Remember that fight.

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