The Invasion of Ukraine

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2 minutes ago, Ssj said:

Raids IRL

this guy! LOL

 

OT: fuck man this is gonna hurt 😕

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4 hours ago, MILAD said:

at the end of the day, US has always been and done worse things. 

Lol this has nothing to do with the Russian invasion of Ukraine...

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31 minutes ago, Gravety Bomb said:

Lol this has nothing to do with the Russian invasion of Ukraine...

Ready for WW3? T_T

[Ace 632]

4 hours ago, S3lvah said:

The only thing louder than the war right now is China's crushing silence. If Putin is allowed to just take Ukraine without paying a steep price, Taiwan is going to follow soon enough – and lest you think none of this applies to you: much of the world's CPUs and other chips powering computers, cars, appliances etc. are manufactured there.

I've been telling people about China lurking in the background for a while now. 

TSMC which is out of Taiwan makes up to 95% of the the world's superconductors. Taiwan is already entering a state of alert. Unknown Chinese aircraft have been caught flying over the country while the Chinese military continues to pump out naval vessels like no one's business. 

 

China didn't endorse Putin's actions during the start of the Olympics only to back off later and "support" Ukraine's independence as a country out of the goodness of their hearts. Chances are at some point in the next week China is going into Taiwan. It's basically free. We've barely done anything to stop Russia from doing what they've down to Ukraine, not just as the current invasion is happening but prior to it. A lot of people are sitting there with their hands up in the air acting as if they didn't know this was coming when it was damn obvious what was about to transpire. 

 

If we don't see severe consequences being made towards Russia within the next couple of days, then we can say with absolute certainty that China will be taking Taiwan soon.

 

4 hours ago, S3lvah said:

Finland is being hit hard by the economic downturn from this (Russia has been vital for trade and as a fossil fuel supplier). And of course, if Ukraine keels over to Russia ezpz, it's only a matter of time when their focus turns on the next formerly possessed country that isn't in Nato.

All memes about Finland clearing its last war with Russia out in a few months aside... Yeah I can see why you're worried. The resource squeeze is going to hurt. If Russia clears Ukraine out in a couple of months they also have the best time of the year to attack you: the summer. Last time Finland tango'd with Russia it was in the winter, and even with all that happened, you still ended up giving them some land in order to make them go away.

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34 minutes ago, Ace said:

I've been telling people about China lurking in the background for a while now. 

TSMC which is out of Taiwan makes up to 95% of the the world's superconductors. Taiwan is already entering a state of alert. Unknown Chinese aircraft have been caught flying over the country while the Chinese military continues to pump out naval vessels like no one's business. 

 

China didn't endorse Putin's actions during the start of the Olympics only to back off later and "support" Ukraine's independence as a country out of the goodness of their hearts. Chances are at some point in the next week China is going into Taiwan. It's basically free. We've barely done anything to stop Russia from doing what they've down to Ukraine, not just as the current invasion is happening but prior to it. A lot of people are sitting there with their hands up in the air acting as if they didn't know this was coming when it was damn obvious what was about to transpire. 

 

If we don't see severe consequences being made towards Russia within the next couple of days, then we can say with absolute certainty that China will be taking Taiwan soon.

 

All memes about Finland clearing its last war with Russia out in a few months aside... Yeah I can see why you're worried. The resource squeeze is going to hurt. If Russia clears Ukraine out in a couple of months they also have the best time of the year to attack you: the summer. Last time Finland tango'd with Russia it was in the winter, and even with all that happened, you still ended up giving them some land in order to make them go away.

Doesn't surprise me about Taiwan at all. China's manufacturing sector been taking an absolute beating over last 18 months. Can see them looking to get in on that superconductor trade while the getting is good.

[Ace 632]

12 minutes ago, Vanuckle said:

Doesn't surprise me about Taiwan at all. China's manufacturing sector been taking an absolute beating over last 18 months. Can see them looking to get in on that superconductor trade while the getting is good.

Yeah, besides that China tends to be more aggressive when they're having economic struggles. And it makes sense. Why should they bother getting their hands dirty with military operations when things are going their way? The only reason for them to exert force is when they find it necessary, otherwise it's just a waste of resources to them.

 

Edited February 24, 2022 by Ace

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10 hours ago, Brian said:

Sanctions aren't gonna do shit. Only reason this is happening is because the West "allowed it" to happen. End of the day they don't really care about Ukraine. If the West was serious about stopping it they would have put troops on the ground before the Russians rolled in. Too late now.

Yeah I agree. He obviously expected these sanctions 

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[S3lvah 291]

3 hours ago, Ace said:

 

As a caveat to what I said re: Taiwan, they actually have a military aid agreement with the US – and the planes crossing over their defense zone, which supposedly extends to part of mainland China (didn't look this up), happens on occasion. Though the timing this time is worrying.

 

From what I've read thus far, Putin has been laying the groundwork / justification to invade Ukraine for some 15 years now. Many of the criteria just aren't there for Finland. We're not a burgeoning democracy gravitating towards the West / EU with a huge Russian-speaking minority that would tempt Russians to demand the same – we've already been EU and one of the top democracies since before Putin came to power. I don't see us being a likely target THAT soon – but for later in our lifetimes, all bets are off. For now, we suffer the economic consequences.

Edited February 24, 2022 by S3lvah

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[Ace 632]

54 minutes ago, S3lvah said:

As a caveat to what I said re: Taiwan, they actually have a military aid agreement with the US – and the planes crossing over their defense zone, which supposedly extends to part of mainland China (didn't look this up), happens on occasion. Though the timing this time is worrying.

 

From what I've read thus far, Putin has been laying the groundwork / justification to invade Ukraine for some 15 years now. Many of the criteria just aren't there for Finland. We're not a burgeoning democracy gravitating towards the West / EU with a huge Russian-speaking minority that would tempt Russians to demand the same – we've already been EU and one of the top democracies since before Putin came to power. I don't see us being a likely target THAT soon – but for later in our lifetimes, all bets are off. For now, we suffer the economic consequences.

It's been happening quite often as of recent. Taiwan has also been working on another agreement with China currently over trade secrets but I haven't checked up on how it's going. I see no reason for China to hold back especially with the world's focus on Ukraine. 

 

Honestly, even after what I said, I don't see Putin/Russia going after Finland for a long time either. It's not that strategic of a position to take. The benefits don't seem that important. Your history with Russia also doesn't set you up as a prime target either. My history is a bit rusty but if I recall you were some sort of Russian territory torn from the Swedish centuries ago that still held some sort its own government? Something along those lines. It's not quite as impactful as the countries that were small chunks of Russians that straight up pulled away and formed their own governments + nation. Everything lined up right for Ukraine. Good location, good benefits to taking over the territory, and it was a former piece of Russia. 

 

There's no telling what's next. Putin might push his luck and attempt to claim more after Ukraine but there's no telling whether it'll be strategic locations, former territories or a mix of both. He's not going to do anything massive for a while after this though unless he has more plans. 

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