Lavigne

ranking cwa is retarded theres ko/capped/styles runin etc. F2P PVP #1 - Reign of Terror - Would still spank almost anyone on a prep let's be realistic. #2 - Ancient Fury - Picked up the quality big time and would smash anyone on this list realistically; the issue is they're still heavily gated by timezone but in a 2hr cap pre 6 EST ye I'd expect them to control it comfortably against anyone. #3 - Tempest - Good numbers that remain consistent through events and probably two of the best callers in this game right now. But the member quality doesn't match the calling quality and essentially the outcome of that is if those callers aren't playing, you'll see a horrendous dip in form. #4 - Revenant - Probably on par with Tempest. #4 - Wilderland - Hard tie between SV and WL. Member quality is pretty mediocre overall. #6 - Sovereign - They're actually not god awful in F2P it's just they don't fight anyone other than ROT. No point putting in anyone else, VR sits in P2P all the day and can't pull jack shit like maybe 30 tops ergo they can probably fight Vitality, but both of them would get crashed by ROT and it'd end in tears. DF are practically a community clan with a few p2p PKs are aren't really worth ranking when they can't compete with anyone right now. Take teams out of the equation and only really ROT/TE/SV and maybe WL exist. Sometimes I wish these teams would just die off and absorb back into main clans so things seem more logical.

Already own the Lavigne name and bought Wonder Woman. I'm sorted lol.

Depends which VR. Assuming when they were alive around the same time probably VR. The Death Monkeighs or Poison.

Even though I got knocked out first round really liked this idea, thanks Ssj. Also GJ everyone for making sure you got your matches played asap this happened so quick. Would like to see a mystic rune no overheads brid next. Or dharoks (people can keep the sets)

Baited.

Ye if you put a staff on it other clans clients can literally see you're in mage and make you a different colour to mark you out.

Do you blame people for using these clients? No, because it's understandable people would want to be equal with anyone else. But if you're using them as a crutch then you fucking suck because you can war fine on the default OSRS client and I've been doing so for years lol, somehow even OSRS players aren't immune to forgetting how to open their eyes. Unless you're Brian and you're like 50 or pt37 and you're like 70, in which case ye, when kids start calling me grandad I'd probably need a client to counter my reactions by then too lol. Do you think Jagex should ban 3rd party clients? Their own client should take more notes from what the other clients have to offer and develop based on it. It's pretty clear they felt a lot of runelite stuff was legal, so why not just steal their ideas and make it increasingly more attractive to play vanilla. This way they can ban all the other clients and people still won't lose much. Imagine having to actually play the game. How do you find these clients effect your game play? Do you find yourself using or even depending on them? Or are you someone who perhaps finds themselves getting piled or sniped a bit more often than preferable because the opposing clan can highlight you or use friend finder to find where you are, even in a mess of 100+ people, with very little effort? The last one I used were Konduit/early Runelite and a modified Exilent (SV client). Back when it was just a couple of really nice overlays but you still had to open your eyes (then again I also disabled a lot of overlays that I felt were just outright cheating). And yeah I can tell pretty obviously when I'm being client piled or sniped over and over, makes the game really unenjoyable to play ngl because before half the skill was in hiding yourself and your robes but this is now irrelevant. What do you think needs to be done to the base client before they ban 3rd party clients? Is it fine now? What features (from runelite or otherwise) do you think would be necessary or close to it if no? Covered already. What do you think are the worst features of 3rd party clients that need to go? What is the most damaging? Overlays and automation that literally tell you what to do or play the game for you. The style detect thing in PVP is also fucking cancerous. Are you concerned with the J cup coming that clients will have a significant effect on the outcome of certain fights? Yep. Especially since I will likely be back in Korea by then so even if I lay down my prejudice for one fight, I can't use those clients in Korea because well, it's illegal lol and getting the standard OSRS client to cache is hard enough.

This. The +1 situation is bordering on ridiculous again and P2P is once again ruined by how much dumb shit there is that can kill you like high end prayers (and you know we're gonna get curses, it's just a matter of when), claws (cos they didn't learn from last time), elder maul, stackable supplies etc. P2P would be a million times better without this shit. F2P is a write-off. People evolved and adapted on a combat system over a decade and a half old that has never changed in mechanics significantly, that can't be changed back even if hugging was back in the game because we would still drop any pile that leaves a clump. Removing gds teleports and stuff (canoe can stay) would go a long way into making F2P interesting again. I just don't see the point in it it's 2 hours of spamming kills with no real end result because you cannot clear an equal footing opponant even if you go like 5:1. Because there's at least one person who will return by the time you've killed the next one. Whether you have 40-50 or 80 ingame right now it doesn't make an ounce of difference as sniping is largely obselete due to the clump meta and only made possible realistically if you have a client that tells you who's maging, even though they're perma overhead and will just run, log hop world and drink a prayer pot; because when a bind lasts 10 seconds now if you get snared in a pile you will die if all 40 of those people hit you for at least 3. Also it should have been add snare, or remove 50% penalty on binds from praying mage, not fucking both.

not sure if mcdonalds greasy or gaming

Thanks for the fight Rev.

Once I figured out who their caller was in the melee pile I made his life miserable btw.

America. Mostly cos I'm black outside of NFL I never go there for a holiday and never will.

"Snipers move up" EOS' were probs the best I fought with just because we started the whole cape switching thing as well. VR's was good, but they also brought a fuckload more people than anyone else to a fight and would just send the excess in snipers. TTs snipe unit was also a pain in the ass, unlike a lot of clans that would just pick 20 people with 99 range TT sent people who were actually good.

I did for a while. I only liked smoking cos I used to have all these tasty af import cigarettes which are now banned and in South Korea you can't even get menthols. So I got into vaping, but vaping got cracked down on hard in the EU to the point it became something borderline more expensive and significantly more effort than smoking, and one of the main selling points of vaping was how cheap and easy it was to do. Plus my chest can no longer handle thick vapor as I have pneumothorax. South Korea and Japan are even worse. It's illegal to purchase nicotine infused e-juice (similar to Europe), you have to buy the nicotine seperately and it can be a pain in the ass getting the balance right when adding it to nic-free juice, if you fuck it up you've fucked up an entire $50 bottle of juice. The taxes on e-cigarette paraphenalia in Korea are also eye watering. I can buy a packet of 20 smokes for the equivelant of about $8, but to get the equivelant in e-cigarettes I'm looking at around 14-17 bucks and given how expensive both Japan and Korea are, like fuck am I paying that. I think vaping is fantastic for cessation, you never really have to give up Nicotine but governments are intent on making it a nightmare. Heard Australia has it pretty bad too.

Ye. It's odd when I got older it occurred to me most scapers either don't or are quiet about it, because like now as an adult when we're fighting I'll legit take a break every now and then mid return and go for a smoke lmao.

Appreciate it, thought he had a bit more swing than that. In which case then we are most probably fucked. Does explain a lot. Because I always got the impression people like Mat, Ash and most of the Content Dev team cared a lot about what we want and have to say so it was odd to come back and find this client situation as an absolute fucking mess and it actually makes me mald so hard it was allowed to get this bad.

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Do you feel Jagex should take a harder stance on cheat clients? I remember using a modified one back in DI (based on SV's client) and Old Nite's spare got banned from it one fight which was obviously unappealable despite the fact it's nowhere near as retarded as this stuff is now. Like the most broken thing on it was it'd tell you how long was left on a freeze/whos already frozen immune etc, but seeing the shit I've seen in fights where I put a staff on and I glow up bright as a mage is very demotivating for playing this game because it's no longer based on mechanical ability, it's who has the better client cos on equal numbers with good callers you can't make someone end or put them at a significant number deficit anymore. Communities carry clanning in this game cos clients made the pvp shit. Honestly tempted to tweet bomb the fuck out of Ash daily until he gets off his fat chink ass and does something about it lol. Worst of all they black screen/won't patch in somecases won't even open in South Korea where RS is banned lol. So even when I'm in Europe I don't use em cos I don't wanna crutch on them later.

Street B0y as a VR official should surprise me, but seeing how I saw Erika jump from Clan Friend to Council it doesn't. Tiffanyz got ranked cos tits. Wasn't aware Diegosage was a bad official but then again him and Liam didn't do much when I was there. I would agree about Sparze. He's a spaz to pretty much anyone who's ever flamed him or had an issue with VR naturally, but he's never done anything that bad. Unfortunate choice of first name though lol.

Are you really a lil dick nigga or was Lovelost lying for DF2 clout?

Do you find drama and beef enjoyable to some extent or would you prefer everything to be nice and respectful? Banter/trash talk and heated rivalries are fine, but everything should remain in the game. Where do you draw the line? Is talking shit and flaming ok? When it gets brought out of the game in any way, inc DDoSing. How do you think this effects how PvP is viewed amongst normal players? Probably not in the best light. I mean I would be surprised if an outsiders impression of the scene was anything other than crashing and DDoSing and them thinking ROT are dominant rather than the fact their behaviour is just borderline obnoxious, along with every other clan that crashes (so not even exclusive to ROT, but also SV and all those shit stinky pure clans). What's been your favourite drama, beef or rivalry of the years? Any stories to tell? VR/TT and DI+ROT vs VR/DF. We never swapped sides in the latter, we just decided if we were gonna be R1 F2P we'd have to fight ROT for it. Out of an initial alliance of DF, VR, EOS and DI (can't count af when it was mostly made it up of VR/DF at the time) - the only two left capable of pulling enough to a Sunday fight were DI and AF; and AF weren't involved in F2P like they are now; DF/VR crashed us as you'd expect and we had a team to clear rule, and then AF crashed us the next day in P2P and the rest was history. We didn't start anything but it was fun reducing VR and DF to a smouldering wreck for many months to come and ROT handled AF to our lack of P2P exp, we could never do much vs AF in the one timezone it was even anywhere near fun going near them - their own. What's the dumbest shit you've seen another clan or individual do to someone else? Swatting. Was anyone else surprised at how well my AMA went lmfao? No.

Rally is king. F1 is shit these days feels like more people have a chance in Rally.

drop party when

I doubt the legitimacy of these logs, not a single mention of Scu needing help at mage bank.

Well fought WL thanks again.