Wilderland's AMA - D96, Vitor & Horn4

[≈Flukejiver 1,183]

40 minutes ago, Lemaster said:

Why would @Mat K ever say this about you??

 

lol rip

[Matheus 4]

1 hour ago, Lemaster said:

Why would @Mat K ever say this about you??

 

LMFAO I remember that xD 

[Adrian 82]

Why is it so hard to kill someone with 43 defence? 

[Dox17 44]

love @D96 and @Vitor

[≈david 805]

Who's the biggest freaks in the brazilian scene 

[Paul 59]

VITORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[Paul 59]

how much do you all bench

[Paul 59]

how come @Vitor never got into curvefever

[Paul 59]

what are the pros and cons of a country clan?

 

do you guys have sick meet-ups irl? funniest story if so? 

 

with the changes to snare and mage pray in regards to cwa, do you like it more or less, and how has your approach changed as callers?

[Pietru 1,231]

Did you have any english members for any period of time? If yes who was the most notable english member?

[Moses 10]

On 12/8/2020 at 4:56 PM, Dox17 said:

love @D96 and @Vitor

^

[D96 53]

On 12/6/2020 at 2:17 AM, The End said:

@D96 having been in P2P powerhouses like Damage Incorporated, Revenant, and Ancient Fury in recent years, what would you say are the strengths of weaknesses of each clan?

 

Between Ancient Fury and Revenant if you were to rejoin a clan today, which one would you pick and why?

Damage Inc - By the time I joined (2017, with Brian as Leader at first) DI was slowly starting to get more into CWA, which definitely increased our quality, I'm pretty sure we even stole a fight from Spartans from what it looked like an impossible comeback. The community was great and the people were very easy to deal with imo. The diversity of events (F2P CWA, F2P PvP, DMM, P2P CWA, P2P PvP, RSB) was what made it the more fun to me. I'd say that as weaknesses, at least by the time we closed, we didn't have a large ML. Our pulls were consistent because 80-90% of our men would make planned fights, and something like 50% would make short preps, but it wasn't enough to handle RoT. By that point we also didn't have valuable intel on RoT, which made everything difficult being in a crash war.

Ancient Fury - Personally I feel like AF had a pretty solid core, and in 2019 they were gaining a lot of ground. I can't say much about the community because I wasn't really into it, but the fights were very fun. AF was 100% focused in P2P and everyone knew what they were doing, so their member quality was pretty good. AF's ML was definitely shorter than Rev's and RoT's by that point, but even though the fights would be pretty even.

Revenant - My stint in Rev only lasted 2 or 3 months, so I'm definitely not the best person to talk about them. I joined Rev maybe 1 month after DI closed, and they just did P2P too. I was just demotivated with the game so I feel like I didn't really enjoy my experience in there, simply because I wasn't really down for it. I made a few fights and it was fun, that's just as much as I remember in all fairness.

 

About rejoining AF or Rev that's actually a really good question. I had more time in AF so I got used to the way they did things and I actually enjoyed a lot my time in there, but I definitely got way more friends in Rev from my time in DI. I enjoyed both clans events, but my experience in AF was better because I was actually down for it, playing the game etc.

On 12/6/2020 at 6:21 AM, true said:

What is the sketchiest thing you've done while leading WL (that you're willing to admit)?

I guess probs doxing an Arroz kid that doxed me first.

On 12/6/2020 at 2:45 PM, Slash Wpr said:

Enjoyable read. As Hell Army's Leader i have some questions for you.

1. How do you feel about crash wars now? back in the day it was really good to boost activity.

2. From our perspective, crash wars were really fun. We used to blast music and chat while mass sniping for 2-10 hours a week. How did you guys feel?

3. WL tried to truce once or twice during our crash war. We refused because our members were enjoying it. Do you think we should have accepted?

4. Do you still hold any grudge against HA? I'm a lovely person, unban me.

5. Would you rather fight TCL/HA/MMA again or keep your high numbers?

6. Do you think TCL members identify themselves as Dragons or Legends?

7. Do you regret closing after EOC? we could just hop to private servers as pures did.

8. Do you like our art?

1. I feel like they can be good if they boost activity, but it's usually cancer due to how far people take things.

2. I was never a fan of mass sniping. I wouldn't mind fighting for 10+ hours fighting with an actual pile, but when it got to the point of mass sniping it'd just be boring for me. There were people in WL that also wouldn't mind doing it, but it was just never my thing.

3. I vaguely remember it, and I guess it was up to if you guys were truly having fun. If you were really enjoying it (with pros & cons, because there's always a price to pay) then you probably did good on saying no. If you knew in advance that it was being fun for the time being, but that it would get boring soon, then probs should have accepted the truce. If I'm not mistaken you guys asked for the truce on the last time? Then we rushed a fight you guys had vs. Downfall and then it pretty much lasted until the end of RS2? I could probably be wrong though, don't remember this kind of minor details.

4. Not really bro, and you're actually unbanned

5. Definitely keeping numbers. If we had all these clans around, none of them would be able to actually have good pulls with constancy.

6. TCL will always be on their hearts and that's no secret, but they also made good friends in here and enjoy fighting for WL. I guess I can relate to that if it was the other way around. They'll always be Legends, but now they're also Dragons. That's at least the way I see.

7. I'm not sure about how things would have been if we actually hopped to a private server, but I guess by then we felt like we had accomplished our mission and that closing was the best decision.

8. It's actually good, the only shame is that the capes are inverted #

On 12/6/2020 at 4:20 PM, true said:

@D96

What made you think we wouldn't last long?

You seemed to have a small memberlist, being a F2P oriented clan in a clan world where F2P action was really limited, getting crashed by RoT with no perspective of getting more options at first. I'm glad to see I was wrong though.

On 12/6/2020 at 10:16 PM, Pope said:

I don't know if anyone has asked this or something similar, but I'm far too lazy to look. What do you think is the cause for Brazilians players hating each other so much? Out of all the language-based communities, from the Lithuanians, to the Dutch, to the Fins, and even the Spanish speakers, I've never seen any of the animosity I've seen from the Brazilians compare. And I'd go as for to say that this isn't even just RS, I've witnessed similar activity in other MMOs with Brazilian players. 

I'm honestly not aware about how many clans all these countries hosted, but I think no other country had so many country clans as Brazil. Brazil is a huge country in terms of population and our culture is really troll-oriented in general lmfao. I can't say it was this or that, but it's probably a mix of a lot of players from the same country that would always be baiting each other for da lulz.

On 12/6/2020 at 10:31 PM, nick said:

my boy Diogo ❤️

Miss you Nick!!

On 12/6/2020 at 10:36 PM, VirgoVaca said:

Did you guys allow multi-clanning at any point between Brazilian clans and other country clans? Or did you just have to commit to one Brazilian clan at a time?

One brazilian clan at a time, always. We didn't even allow multi-clanning with main clans at a specific point where we were at our peak in 2009ish.

On 12/7/2020 at 12:06 AM, Eric said:

Do you think a country clan could ever get to #1?

 

Do you think brazilian clans have been more sucessful than hispanic ones? if so, which was the key?

 

Does the 7-1  vs Germany on the worldcup still hurt? xD

 

How hard or easy is for people whose first language isn't portuguese to integrate in your clan? 

 

An opinion: Brazilian players in country clans are usually not good members in "main" clans, because whenever both clans require them, they always go for their country clan. Do you agree? Have you have to deal with these kind of situations in the past? How did they turn out?

1. If Fools didn't they got pretty close tbh, guess the only argument as for them not being #1 by then was that they were limited to their timezone. I'd say it's possible in terms of pulls/quality, maybe not in terms of overall activity.

2. I honestly can't remember any hispanic clans lmao, so probably yeah. If there was a key, it'd probably be more numbers & loyalty/dedication. Something special about brazilian clans for me is that everyone would defend their clans so badly regardless of the state of it. It looked like everyone was really proud of being on their clans.

3. I stopped watching football because of this lmfao

4. I'd say we're pretty open people, but we need to have some kind of strong connection with a non-brazilian/portuguese person to let them in. If the case applies, we don't really mind them.

5. I agree. We did have our fair share of issues with multi-clanning, but to be honest this almost never became a problem for us because as you said, it was natural to prioritize their country clans.

On 12/7/2020 at 12:32 AM, true said:

what is a really funny story regarding wl that never got made public 

Our former leader Mataoumorre (which still comes to fights occasionally) had plenty of those. One of them was when we were fighting TCL or HA and he was at his family's farm. He was our main caller back then, and mid-calling we could hear some of his parents screaming at him to get out of the computer and help them to park his tractor. He immediately stopped calling and told us he'd brb because he had something to do. He came back hours later drunk screaming "É TORNADO PORRA" which there are no words in english to describe, but if I had to explain I'd say he mean't he came back just as fast as a hurricane lmfao. I could be wrong about some details though, @Vitor can confirm, but this day was really funny.

On 12/7/2020 at 1:34 AM, true said:

Who is the worst international clan leader you've been led by?

 

Don't think I ever had a terrible clan leader tbh. Maybe back in RS2 when I was 100% focused in WL but then I wouldn't remember. Can't really complain about recent leaderships though.

On 12/7/2020 at 7:49 AM, ZEDEUSS said:

6. Do you think a clan really needs a forum/site nowadays? Because discord is a mix of forum/irc/ts and is very good at all of them. How much do you think wl benefits on having an actual forum?

 

7. Truly the only question that matters. Tits or Ass?

6. It's just the way we're used to organize ourselves and I guess it's also a part of the nostalgia. A clan can probably work without boards, but I don't think that would work for WL. I'm also not sure about how good that clan could be. Discord definitely benefit clans and allows them to get themselves organized, but I'm not sure if it could be as good as forums.

7. Ass

On 12/7/2020 at 1:53 PM, Makarov said:

@Vitor @D96 Wheres Matekitu? any of u guys remember him? i met him in 2012 and he talked a lot about WL

I remember him yeah, just no clue about where he's been after all these years.

On 12/7/2020 at 4:08 PM, Adam_ said:

If Arroz fully called it quits and you guys started absorbing their members, how many of them would you turn away due to stuff they've done to WL? (Doxing etc) ranks included

I definitely wouldn't take Jeta, M40 and Muzinho, which are the ones I know that were involved with doxing recently. I wouldn't take any other people that did the same.

On 12/7/2020 at 10:01 PM, The End said:

1) You guys mentioned earlier you are very content with what you have accomplished since opening on OSRS, and would view this iteration of Wilderland as a huge success even if you closed tomorrow. That being said, are there any specific goals, achievements, or milestones you would like Wilderland to actualize while you are open?

 

2) With decline in F2P CWA fights it seems Wilderland has been steadily P2P Pking. Do you see yourself doing any organized P2P fights in the future?

 

3) Having recently fought many clans in head-to-head F2P battles, what did you feel the opposing clan did well and what could have they done better in their fights with you? How happy were you with your performance against each?

 

-Revenant

-Ancient Fury

-Echo of Silence

-Violent Resolution

-Reign of Terror

-Tempest

1. I'd like to see us pulling 70+ every single fight and seeing us pull 100 people on a big prep. So far we had periods where we'd pull 60s easily and 70s with a certain prep, having 84 people on TS as our best pull. Would probably be good to get more people interested in doing P2P fights other than trips and to raise our quality aswell, but as you already said, we're really proud of everything we achieved so far, we definitely weren't expecting it.

2. I'd definitely be down for it and I guess we could give it a shot, however I'm not sure how most of our memberbase would deal with this.

 

Revenant - In our first fight vs. them I felt like we had great spams and streaks in general, maybe just lacked organizaton at specific points since we had some old people getting back at the game. I was pretty happy with our performance tbh. They also did really good, they fought with less 10 people and still held their ground and performed really good.

Ancient Fury - Sadly I wasn't able to fight this one due to my internet connection =p

Echo of Silence - This was probably the funniest fight we've had in ages. We had a big pull (65 if I'm not mistaken) and since we knew it was their first fight after years, we didn't really tried hard or anything. We performed really well, but we also bantered a lot. I also think they did fine for their first fight back.

Violent Resolution - This was honestly really one sided. We had like 55 people but it felt like way more at points. Our KO power was really good and our spams were also pretty solid. I guess they were just coming back to F2P aswell with a lot of old schools, so it's natural for them to have a hard time at first. I guess the only thing that comes to head where they could have done better is spam.

Reign of Terror - We had some pretty good fights vs. them, but imo the best one was our last encounter. We peaked at like 72 and we held a really solid performance through all the time cap, being able to keep our numbers in-game, spams off the screen and good streaks.

Tempest - For me, our first fight was the funniest. Both clans peaked at 55ish and the fight was squeaky clean. I felt like you guys weren't that used to the box META which made it funnier. Think it's safe to say we performed really well, and the @Wee Man meme made my day lmfao.

On 12/8/2020 at 12:29 PM, Flukejiver said:

Other than the other Brazilian country clans, who would you say would be your biggest rival if you have one? What country clan do you like fighting the most? The least?

I'm not sure if I would label them as rivals, but it was always fun fighting TR back then. I remember an uncapped in 2011ish that lasted for 10~ hours. Sadly we lost this one, but I don't think we ever had such a long fight being with a main clan.

On 12/8/2020 at 12:32 PM, King_Obina said:

Who is the most annoying clan mate you ever had?

The boy iam_victorr. He was actually a friend, but Jesus Christ he was REALLY annoying, specially when he was raging mid-calling.

On 12/8/2020 at 1:19 PM, Leeo said:

How do you felt when back to 2010, Angelin leaked HA's forum with a PK Leader Mask and deleted all topics and posts?

It was hilarious lmfao, can't say it wasn't deserved =p

On 12/8/2020 at 1:34 PM, MILAD said:

Opinions on The Titans?

TT was always a really respectful clan and we always looked up to them. They had great quality and whenever we'd fight TT we prepped big.

On 12/8/2020 at 2:59 PM, Adam_ said:

obviously your memberlist and the portuguese clanning community are spread across a few different countries, but i imagine there's a fair chance some people, including rivals, live relatively close to one another. has there been any irl confrontations over clan things? whether it was positive and just people meeting up to hang out or people being idiots over a video game

 

what's the most nh thing you've done as part of any clan?

 

 

1. I can't remember if someone ever took beef this far where a truly bad situation happened IRL. I met @Leeo IRL while he was in HA and we were both in a crash war though and it was really funny.

2. Guess it was when I pranked Lady Maximas back in 2014. Exotic & NP weren't really in a crash war, but there was some beef going. I called her saying I was from a model agency and after a few mins on the call I asked her to write down the call protocol which was something like "3x0t1c".

On 12/8/2020 at 3:39 PM, King_Obina said:

Any of you remember when UK_REI actually called Mataoumorre saying we (TCL) were out trying to find you? How was the reaction on your TS when that happened?

I actually remember lmfao, everyone started laughing a lot.

On 12/8/2020 at 3:46 PM, Lemaster said:

Why would @Mat K ever say this about you??

 

This is what I'd label as fake news tbh...

On 12/8/2020 at 6:56 PM, Dox17 said:

love @D96 and @Vitor

Much love doxie!!

On 12/8/2020 at 10:11 PM, david said:

Who's the biggest freaks in the brazilian scene 

Adenina and Break are savages

On 12/8/2020 at 10:36 PM, Paul said:

how much do you all bench

A lot!!

On 12/8/2020 at 10:36 PM, Paul said:

how come @Vitor never got into curvefever

We didn't show him the path sadly

 

On 12/8/2020 at 10:40 PM, Paul said:

what are the pros and cons of a country clan?

 

do you guys have sick meet-ups irl? funniest story if so? 

 

with the changes to snare and mage pray in regards to cwa, do you like it more or less, and how has your approach changed as callers?

1. Pros I'd say community (this isn't necessarily true for every brazilian clan for the whole time, but it's easier to relate & communicate to people that got same culture etc.), being able to hang out with people that you feel like doing it and I guess it just feels like home tbh. Cons would be less sources of recruits and therefore not being able to impose really high requirements/standards if you ever get to that point.

2. We used to host yearly barbecues back in RS2, and sadly I wasn't able to make any because I lived like 2 hours away from where they did it and I didn't have a car/drivers license by then, but I've still met a lot of people IRL like @Matheus, @Leeo, Cacowho, Rony, Frankventura, Aguia00, Mib 17 and others. The people who made it always had a lot of fun on the meetings though. From my meetings, I'd say the funniest was when Rony smoked weed for the first time lmfao.

3. I think snare is actually fine, but imo it could be more balanced if mage pray actually worked. I think it allowed clans to maintain actual piles even if heavily outnumbered, which gives more room to explore. As a caller I guess what changed the most is that it's way easier now to get big streaks on the same spot, the timing to get switches n such is easier because you got more time to think about whatever you wanna do and evaluate situations on a better note.

9 hours ago, Pietru said:

Did you have any english members for any period of time? If yes who was the most notable english member?

I don't remember any ?

Edited December 10, 2020 by D96

[Vitor 19]

On 12/8/2020 at 12:29 PM, Flukejiver said:

Other than the other Brazilian country clans, who would you say would be your biggest rival if you have one? What country clan do you like fighting the most? The least?

At some point I'd say it was EoS, just because we were in a crash war with HA and would team up with them (or atleast some of them would show up, idk), other than that not sure who would've been our rival if not a brazilian country clan. Favorite probably TCL/Fools, the least it was probably LG/TBK just because they had their own beef and when we fought them just felt like any other fight.

 

On 12/8/2020 at 12:32 PM, King_Obina said:

Who is the most annoying clan mate you ever had?

Well, I think most people can say I'm a pretty calm/chill guy, but there was a guy in WL who would take that away and it was Iam_victor. He was one of our callers and would always cry when he was getting sniped and annoying stuff like that, so 100% that guy

 

On 12/8/2020 at 1:19 PM, Leeo said:

How do you felt when back to 2010, Angelin leaked HA's forum with a PK Leader Mask and deleted all topics and posts?

Felt it was like, an eye for an eye basically. Since HA had done other stuff to us (or friends, but they were basically the same)

 

On 12/8/2020 at 1:34 PM, MILAD said:

Opinions on The Titans?

Really liked TT, if I recall correctly I tried joining TT but it never worked because I'd prioritize WL over anything else. But they always looked like a really strong clan and could perform really good, had some brazilian mates in there as well I believe.

 

On 12/8/2020 at 2:59 PM, Adam_ said:

obviously your memberlist and the portuguese clanning community are spread across a few different countries, but i imagine there's a fair chance some people, including rivals, live relatively close to one another. has there been any irl confrontations over clan things? whether it was positive and just people meeting up to hang out or people being idiots over a video game

 

what's the most nh thing you've done as part of any clan?

- We had some meetings with WL people who lived near each other, and I remember that once they were all together at same place for a WL vs SoG fight which I think was really fun. And for confrontations with other clans or stuff like that, I don't think there was anything like that.

 

- I can't think of anything really lmao, I was always the guy who'd say that I like to win fights in game and not doing stuff outside of it so ye, probably was DDoSing someone but it wasn't fight related, just someone I disliked and was messing with him when I could.

 

On 12/8/2020 at 3:39 PM, King_Obina said:

Any of you remember when UK_REI actually called Mataoumorre saying we (TCL) were out trying to find you? How was the reaction on your TS when that happened?

I believe it was a wekeend where we both were hunting each other (or something like that), and instead of pming on IRC he called him, it was pretty funny lmao we all laughed hard and said "hek ye leggo" basically

 

On 12/8/2020 at 3:46 PM, Lemaster said:

Why would @Mat K ever say this about you??

 

It was April Fools and he was joking with us, we had a great laugh and a beer together after this.

 

On 12/8/2020 at 5:08 PM, Adrian said:

Why is it so hard to kill someone with 43 defence?

The lower the defence the lower you hit on them I'm pretty sure

 

On 12/8/2020 at 6:56 PM, Dox17 said:

love @D96 and @Vitor

Love ya my boy Dox ❤️

 

On 12/8/2020 at 10:11 PM, david said:

Who's the biggest freaks in the brazilian scene 

Markito probably by far, there was some other freaks like Rafael Under, Adenina but I guess Markito wins this one.

 

On 12/8/2020 at 10:36 PM, Paul said:

how much do you all bench

same as d96

 

On 12/8/2020 at 10:36 PM, Paul said:

how come @Vitor never got into curvefever

I actually played a bit of it lmfao, I think it was most with brazilian boys and not like D96 because he'd always say something and add "wanna play curve?" after l0l

 

On 12/8/2020 at 10:40 PM, Paul said:

what are the pros and cons of a country clan?

 

do you guys have sick meet-ups irl? funniest story if so? 

 

with the changes to snare and mage pray in regards to cwa, do you like it more or less, and how has your approach changed as callers?

- The community aspect can be really good, you get to know people and sometimes have really good friends that can turn out to be real life friends, not that it cannot happen in a international clan but I feel it is most likely to happen in a country clan. On the other side, recruiting can be really bad and you just have to accept what you have and what you can recruit, so sometimes we would hold something and not remove someone because we knew it was hard to replace that guy.

 

- Ye, I didn't get to meet everyone I could unfornately, but every now and then there was a bbq where people would get drunk and do something stupid. I remember that one of our guys would always get drunk and stake all his bank until he loses everything

 

- From a caller perspective it's fine just because now basically if you land a snare and have a solid pile the guy will 100% die, it's a bit broken I'd say but ye. I think what changed the most is that you can now switch piles really easy, once you have someone bound and he's not taking any damage you have 6-10 seconds to find another pile and switch so that was what I tried to get everytime.

 

18 hours ago, Pietru said:

Did you have any english members for any period of time? If yes who was the most notable english member?

They were not members that went thru application thing and such, but by the point where we would get crashed by 50+ people everytime we said "fuck it" and would invite some peole to fight for us. There was always some guys who would attend like, 90-100% of our fights, names that I can remember was John (DR Leader nowadays) and Ghottu (if I'm not mispelling his name) who was CR member I believe.

 

15 hours ago, Moses said:

On 12/8/2020 at 6:56 PM, Dox17 said:

love @D96 and @Vitor

^

Moses ❤️ love ya too buddy

[Adam_ 1,033]

With 2021 coming do you guys have any goals in mind? I know i've asked the longterm goals for WL more or less, but curious if there's anything where you're thinking; alright by the end of 2021 we want to have this and this done, and want to be able to do this, etc. 

[@True 2k8 3,223]

How do you want to be remembered?